Are the glory days of deer hunting coming to a close?

[BenA]

@Howboutthemdawgs Did you hear about the law trying to be passed in Kentucky to allow 2 bucks?

 

[SwampCat]

@Howboutthemdawgs Did you hear about the law trying to be passed in Kentucky to allow 2 bucks?

Before long you kentucky hunters gonna be in the market for a pack of walker hounds

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

@Howboutthemdawgs Did you hear about the law trying to be passed in Kentucky to allow 2 bucks?

Jesus. No. I’ll sell when that happens. I actually bought a duck property this week with a buddy. I’ll just go all in on that and they can destroy the deer herd without my help

 

[BenA]

Jesus. No. I’ll sell when that happens. I actually bought a duck property this week with a buddy. I’ll just go all in on that and they can destroy the deer herd without my help

26RS HB 142

apps.legislature.ky.gov

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Yeah just found it. The destruction of quality hunting almost complete

 

[SwampCat]

Jesus. No. I’ll sell when that happens. I actually bought a duck property this week with a buddy. I’ll just go all in on that and they can destroy the deer herd without my help

Where is the duck property located?

 

[Mortenson]

Bunch of slayers on Iowa trying to say 2 buck limit makes for better hunting than 1 buck. Quite the debate over there.

 

[Foggy47]

Before long you kentucky hunters gonna be in the market for a pack of walker hounds

I heard they are considering two bucks, or one buck and a cocker spaniel. About the same kinda meat.....so who cares? (grin).

What slays me....is that MN will charge you for a bow license, a rifle license, and a muzzle loader licenses.......but you can still only kill one buck. Stoopid....it's all about fees.

 

[Turkey Creek]

I am not sure if they still have it but Nebraska was nice enough a number of years back to implement a any season buck tag. It cost more than a pick your season tag, but I liked it. I would rather archery hunt than rifle hunt, but if muzzleloader season rolled around in December sometimes I would just carry my muzzleloader instead.

 

[willy]

I am not sure if they still have it but Nebraska was nice enough a number of years back to implement a any season buck tag.

They still have it but have limited it to a certain number of tags(res). There are some of those type of tags available for non-res as well.

 

[Brian662]

@omicron1792 nice post

Ok. Thought experiment time try to take yourself out of the equation and be an unbiased observer.

Hunter 1:

Hunts out west for elk and mule deer. Has a seekins ph3 6 creedmoor and reloads. Has killing velocity out to 700 yards with well established dope using online calculator. 1200 dollar mil dot scope 2-12x with quick drop dope reticle tailored to hand loaded ammo. Carbon fiber tripod and bipod for stable shots.

Swaro German binos 12x. Laser cut glass and high tech film to gather every bit of light. 15-18x spotting scope with ame high tech glass. These sit on carbon fiber tripod that weighs less than two pounds. Easy to pack in and can glass all day.

Laser rangefinder built into binos or handheld. Can range an animal to 1800 yards.

4 trail cams that he put out at beginning of hunt. He checks the cards daily as he stalks the route he’s been planning with onx gps for months. He has his Garmen inreach to call with any emergencies.

Carbon fiber framed backpack with all the goodies. Synthetic clothes to keep you warm. LED headlamps. A multitool with all you need. Down sleeping bags good to 0 degrees. Freeze dried meals for instant food on your insta boil propane burner. Space age tent that weighs two pounds that provides great protection from elements. Don’t forget inflatable or memory foam ground pad under the sleeping bag.

Hunter 2:
Hunts on his families 200 acres. Uses a 30-06 his grandfather used good to 300 yards with a vortex scope. Has 8x vortex binos and no range finder. Uses old wool vest and long John’s he’s had for years.

He and his cousins have two cell cams on the property that they all share an account for to check deer on their one green field. His wife gave him a 240 thermal that cost 700 dollars from temu for Christmas. He’s pumped when he sees a blurry red blob out at the end of the field a few steps still in the woods.


Do you think an unbiased observer would say
Hunter 1: man he is doing it right. What a mountain man fair chasing those elk
Hunter 2: he is over the line. Technology is ruining hunting.

We are all so biased by our personal experiences. The boogey man is not right around the corner ruining hunting. For many many here, hunting is the best it has ever been WITH new tech. The other have to get used to it. Look at me as an Alabama fan. I have to get used to not being the best, even though I’ve had it great for 20 years. Things change. Adapt, be happy, and move on. And maybe look at ourselves first and the advantages we happily take advantage of before looking at others and saying “that’s over the line.”

Nice post, you do make a compelling argument. I don't necessarily agree but it is thought provoking.

I do not feel bad for you about the Crimson Tide, however.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

You make me want to do this in N. MN. I have a tiny bit but not much. The deer population and potential for a good buck is pretty awful but deer still exist and just getting some miles on in the northwoods is better than sitting in the same old stands. I've done quite a bit of tracking elk like this in MT though. Through crotch deep snow at times! Feels like it'll never work until it does.

I wish I knew more about the traditions and history of the mid-west big woods. I'm sure it's similar to the Northeast big woods. The one thing northern Maine has going for it is the massive amounts of logging. All of that logging equals massive amounts of early successional growth. Tens of thousands of square miles of private land owned by paper companies and timber corporations but that is open to the public.

But you nailed it....feels like it will never happen...until it does.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

I wish I knew more about the traditions and history of the mid-west big woods. I'm sure it's similar to the Northeast big woods. The one thing northern Maine has going for it is the massive amounts of logging. All of that logging equals massive amounts of early successional growth. Tens of thousands of square miles of private land owned by paper companies and timber corporations but that is open to the public.

But you nailed it....feels like it will never happen...until it does.

Not near the tradition as the NE from a tracking standpoint. Stand hunting and still hunting has been primary here since I was a kid (approaching 30 years) but it still happens a little. Traditions are more about hunting camp than the methods up there.

This talk is making me want to get back in shape and do it for elk again. We were miles into a track in this video and snow got deep!

 

[omicron1792]

Not near the tradition as the NE from a tracking standpoint. Stand hunting and still hunting has been primary here since I was a kid (approaching 30 years) but it still happens a little. Traditions are more about hunting camp than the methods up there.

This talk is making me want to get back in shape and do it for elk again. We were miles into a track in this video and snow got deep!

I would literally die. Can’t imagine that kind of weather. Y’all are tougher.

 

[omicron1792]

@omicron1792 nice post

Nice post, you do make a compelling argument. I don't necessarily agree but it is thought provoking.

I do not feel bad for you about the Crimson Tide, however.

Ha. No one does or should.

It’s something I actually think about alot. I don’t know why, just don’t see why we see the next tech as the line but the tech we use as just fine