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Are the glory days of deer hunting coming to a close?

This thread makes my head spin! Not sure what to make of it except different circumstances create different perspectives. I stay with my own experience.On my farm in La...damn I love Louisiana!!! I have had 17+ hunters spend countless hunting hours. By season end we will have taken 16 adult does, 5 yearling does, and 5-7 female fawns { that mix the subject for another thread but not accidental } We will have taken 5 or 6 bucks mostly thinning from the bottom of the adult age class though one of them was a 160" 8 pt I " traded " for a guy that brings me white perch every week...good trade! Without any exception everyone of those hunters would say every hour spent reflects the glory days of hunting being now.

I'll be leaving for the ranch tomorrow. There will be 15 in camp though the holidays ranging from 10 yrs old to 71 { thats me:) } Through the course of the season we will have around 40 to 45 hunters pass through and we will probably take 15-20 bucks. I suspect if questioned every single person that hunts the ranch will say that it is the greatest hunting experience they have without close second. To them the glory days of hunting are now!.

What impact does this have on each community?

In Louisiana we have taken worn out poor land only fit for growing pine trees or possibly cattle and created high quality whitetail habitat. The effect is that land values where that template has been followed have increased from about $2500 to $3000/acre to $8000-$10,000 acre. My children are pretty jazzed about that. The entirety of the local economy has benefited. More quality hunting for more hunters is now present because there is more quality hunting land available. The local feed mill could not be more excited supporting the hunting community

Mexico is a far more dramatic impact. I started buying land at $65 acre from folks that were going bankrupt trying to grow cattle.Once the template was perfected for Americans to buy property the values immediately increased where now good hunting property goes for $300-$500/acre. tell any Mexican that was able to sell that thats a bad thing and you will get the evil eye. Even more profound my ranch manager inherited 12,000 acres. Could barely make a living on it working cattle. Also worked for me and leased his property to hunters . He adjoins my ranch . By us building a reputation for having the finest whitetail ranches in Northern Mexico he recently sold 10,000 of his acres for $1000/ acre. He's going lion hunting in Africa this Summer!!!!!!! Convince him the glory days of hunting aren't now.

Beyond that the local economy has flourished in ways never before possible without today being the glory days of hunting. The local mill sells thousands of tons of protein pellets every year. American have bought many hundreds of miles of pvc to distribute water for wildlife. Better fencing, better roads, lake construction...an endless list. Many local Mexicans have quality jobs managing and working the ranches taking care of the wildlife primarily deer. Jobs that replaced substance living providing them with better housing vehicles and quality of life. The trickle effects on the economy are profound and transformational. And as a result of converting from cattle to deer countless more people are enjoying the glory days of hunting right now.

Happy to elaborate as there is so much more but that is my hands on personal experience
 
This thread makes my head spin! Not sure what to make of it except different circumstances create different perspectives. I stay with my own experience.On my farm in La...damn I love Louisiana!!! I have had 17+ hunters spend countless hunting hours. By season end we will have taken 16 adult does, 5 yearling does, and 5-7 female fawns { that mix the subject for another thread but not accidental } We will have taken 5 or 6 bucks mostly thinning from the bottom of the adult age class though one of them was a 160" 8 pt I " traded " for a guy that brings me white perch every week...good trade! Without any exception everyone of those hunters would say every hour spent reflects the glory days of hunting being now.

I'll be leaving for the ranch tomorrow. There will be 15 in camp though the holidays ranging from 10 yrs old to 71 { thats me:) } Through the course of the season we will have around 40 to 45 hunters pass through and we will probably take 15-20 bucks. I suspect if questioned every single person that hunts the ranch will say that it is the greatest hunting experience they have without close second. To them the glory days of hunting are now!.

What impact does this have on each community?

In Louisiana we have taken worn out poor land only fit for growing pine trees or possibly cattle and created high quality whitetail habitat. The effect is that land values where that template has been followed have increased from about $2500 to $3000/acre to $8000-$10,000 acre. My children are pretty jazzed about that. The entirety of the local economy has benefited. More quality hunting for more hunters is now present because there is more quality hunting land available. The local feed mill could not be more excited supporting the hunting community

Mexico is a far more dramatic impact. I started buying land at $65 acre from folks that were going bankrupt trying to grow cattle.Once the template was perfected for Americans to buy property the values immediately increased where now good hunting property goes for $300-$500/acre. tell any Mexican that was able to sell that thats a bad thing and you will get the evil eye. Even more profound my ranch manager inherited 12,000 acres. Could barely make a living on it working cattle. Also worked for me and leased his property to hunters . He adjoins my ranch . By us building a reputation for having the finest whitetail ranches in Northern Mexico he recently sold 10,000 of his acres for $1000/ acre. He's going lion hunting in Africa this Summer!!!!!!! Convince him the glory days of hunting aren't now.

Beyond that the local economy has flourished in ways never before possible without today being the glory days of hunting. The local mill sells thousands of tons of protein pellets every year. American have bought many hundreds of miles of pvc to distribute water for wildlife. Better fencing, better roads, lake construction...an endless list. Many local Mexicans have quality jobs managing and working the ranches taking care of the wildlife primarily deer. Jobs that replaced substance living providing them with better housing vehicles and quality of life. The trickle effects on the economy are profound and transformational. And as a result of converting from cattle to deer countless more people are enjoying the glory days of hunting right now.

Happy to elaborate as there is so much more but that is my hands on personal experience
With all the respect in the world, Baker, you don’t count. 😂
 
My son in law hunts about an hour south of shreveport. They used to mount their 100” bucks. Now they are killing 135/140 in deer every year with bigger deer in the vicinity. They have hunted the same property for over 30 years. Right now is the best hunting they have ever had - by far. Even starting to get a few turkeys.
 
My son in law hunts about an hour south of shreveport. They used to mount their 100” bucks. Now they are killing 135/140 in deer every year with bigger deer in the vicinity. They have hunted the same property for over 30 years. Right now is the best hunting they have ever had - by far. Even starting to get a few turkeys.
Are they in the Red River corridor? That corridor and the Mississippi River delta corridor are some of the best places for big deer in Louisiana. But there's also a region in northwest LA that's been cranking out some good ones lately too. Beautiful, dark racks. Yeah, the glory days are right now for some.
 
Are they in the Red River corridor? That corridor and the Mississippi River delta corridor are some of the best places for big deer in Louisiana. But there's also a region in northwest LA that's been cranking out some good ones lately too. Beautiful, dark racks. Yeah, the glory days are right now for some.

I would say they in are just east of the red river valley - but I have seen some pics of some monsters that come off the river
 
My son in law hunts about an hour south of shreveport. They used to mount their 100” bucks. Now they are killing 135/140 in deer every year with bigger deer in the vicinity. They have hunted the same property for over 30 years. Right now is the best hunting they have ever had - by far. Even starting to get a few turkeys.

Texas implemented 13” minimum inside spread antler restrictions about 20 years ago in all the counties around us… (with an exception for spikes). I was TICKED when it started, because you could hunt a month straight and barely see a 13” buck.

20 years later, and our average score has AT LEAST doubled from what it used to be. You can reasonably expect to have a 130-140” buck in areas without too much pressure.

The total numbers are coming up as well, this was the first year that doe season has been extended. For as long as I can remember, does were only legal thanksgiving week.

The next logical step for improving things would be reducing the current rifle season. 70+ days is just too long for a buck to keep his head down. Texas will never shorten rifle season, though. Of that, I am sure.


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Texas implemented 13” minimum inside spread antler restrictions about 20 years ago in all the counties around us… (with an exception for spikes). I was TICKED when it started, because you could hunt a month straight and barely see a 13” buck.

20 years later, and our average score has AT LEAST doubled from what it used to be. You can reasonably expect to have a 130-140” buck in areas without too much pressure.

The total numbers are coming up as well, this was the first year that doe season has been extended. For as long as I can remember, does were only legal thanksgiving week.

The next logical step for improving things would be reducing the current rifle season. 70+ days is just too long for a buck to keep his head down. Texas will never shorten rifle season, though. Of that, I am sure.


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Texas will probably shorten their season right after Louisiana. Dont look for that anytime soon.
 
Texas implemented 13” minimum inside spread antler restrictions about 20 years ago in all the counties around us… (with an exception for spikes). I was TICKED when it started, because you could hunt a month straight and barely see a 13” buck.

20 years later, and our average score has AT LEAST doubled from what it used to be. You can reasonably expect to have a 130-140” buck in areas without too much pressure.

The total numbers are coming up as well, this was the first year that doe season has been extended. For as long as I can remember, does were only legal thanksgiving week.

The next logical step for improving things would be reducing the current rifle season. 70+ days is just too long for a buck to keep his head down. Texas will never shorten rifle season, though. Of that, I am sure.


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What's the penalty if you shoot 1 that's under 13"? Is it a fine? Too bad it wasn't 13" or grossing at least 125" for instances when bucks like this come along.

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I am all for APR’s. We had an apr of at least three points on one side, until cwd was found two weeks ago in our county. We went from shooting nothing but 1.5 yr old spikes and forkhorns to a legitimate chance at a 130” plus after adding the APR. A lot of mature bucks. I always preferred the number of points over the spread as the method to determine a legal deer. Judging a 12 3/4” deer vs a 13 1/8” deer, in the field, can be very difficult. All my hunting grand daughters can at least count to three. But I would dang sure take the spread restriction over nothing - which we now have.
 
Are they in the Red River corridor? That corridor and the Mississippi River delta corridor are some of the best places for big deer in Louisiana. But there's also a region in northwest LA that's been cranking out some good ones lately too. Beautiful, dark racks. Yeah, the glory days are right now for some.
Big chunks of Tensas, Concordia, East Carroll, Madison, and Avoyelles rival anywhere in the world for big whitetails, as I’m sure you know.
 
Big chunks of Tensas, Concordia, East Carroll, Madison, and Avoyelles rival anywhere in the world for big whitetails, as I’m sure you know.
Yeah. I've seen some giants come out of there. I still have an eye out for property in the Louisiana delta side.
 
I see some of the giants they kill on those equity clubs. That’s what’s possible when you control a lot of land and things get age on them.
 
And have good dirt😎
And, you can ruin the antler potential in good soil areas by changing the food produced there. There were some areas by me that used to be crops and oaks. They converted to pines, and the antlers took a nose dive because of the food.
 
And, you can ruin the antler potential in good soil areas by changing the food produced there. There were some areas by me that used to be crops and oaks. They converted to pines, and the antlers took a nose dive because of the food.
Pine can produce great food. But requires work. Keep stands thinned and burned.
 
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