Ahhhh cereal rye

[Westwind]

I love the idea of a sprayer on the back of my seeder. I have looked at it a few times and scratched my head…. Hasn’t happened yet.

 

[Foggy47]

Nah....your juice is not worth the squeeze. grin. You have a reading compression problem. I think your the prolem with the clues.

I'm sorry Mantic. I was having a bad day. Likely should not have been posting stuff.

 

[Foggy47]

I love the idea of a sprayer on the back of my seeder. I have looked at it a few times and scratched my head…. Hasn’t happened yet.

John Komp at Northwoods and others have said that spraying gly on seeds can be detrimental to germination. I know lots of folks have done this....and may get away with it....but it also could have a reduced germination. At one time I thought about putting a sprayer on the walkboards of my drill...to do as your suggest here. I recall someone did something like this. ???

 

[Bowsnbucks]

You got it. Though you can terminate by mowing earlier too.

Gotta add…..that while flail mowing provides an even mulch…..that much will break down and not provide the beautifully even, long lasting mulch effects that crimping provides. Mowed rye straw breaks down much faster. Crimped rye straw is superior at weed suppression IMHO.

Thanks, Foggy, for this info. Our camp has a new PTO-driven mower deck pulled by our 55hp JD tractor. For as often as we'd need a crimper, they won't spend for one. The mower deck will be our tool of availability.

How long would the mulch last if we sprayed rye with gly, then when the rye began to wilt/yellow a few days later - broadcast brassicas into it then? Would that sequence be feasible?

 

[Catscratch]

Thanks, Foggy, for this info. Our camp has a new PTO-driven mower deck pulled by our 55hp JD tractor. For as often as we'd need a crimper, they won't spend for one. The mower deck will be our tool of availability.

How long would the mulch last if we sprayed rye with gly, then when the rye began to wilt/yellow a few days later - broadcast brassicas into it then? Would that sequence be feasible?

I've done that sequence many times with great success. Discovered many yrs ago that thatch works just as good standing as it does laying flat. How long it lasts depends on you soil microbe activity. If you have good things going on in the soil that standing thatch gets swallowed up quicker than youd think.

 

[Foggy47]

Thanks, Foggy, for this info. Our camp has a new PTO-driven mower deck pulled by our 55hp JD tractor. For as often as we'd need a crimper, they won't spend for one. The mower deck will be our tool of availability.

How long would the mulch last if we sprayed rye with gly, then when the rye began to wilt/yellow a few days later - broadcast brassicas into it then? Would that sequence be feasible?

Perfect!! Great way to improve seed to soil contact and then cover the seed with mulch.

 

[Foggy47]

Thanks, Foggy, for this info. Our camp has a new PTO-driven mower deck pulled by our 55hp JD tractor. For as often as we'd need a crimper, they won't spend for one. The mower deck will be our tool of availability.

How long would the mulch last if we sprayed rye with gly, then when the rye began to wilt/yellow a few days later - broadcast brassicas into it then? Would that sequence be feasible?

Was at my land today. Snapped some pics of LAST YEARS crimped rye straw and the way it covers the ground nearly a year later. (I crimped it in July). If you mow it....it will break down MUCH faster than this. Its doing a great job of suppressing weeds and ready for the next chapter in my plans with little work. This is a failed brassica plot....that did not grow due to NO rain. Also some fall rye that did not grow until rain a few days ago. Still...the armor dd the job. Most of my plots look horrible.......but some rye is starting to grow tall now. I also nuked some of this to prepare it for switchgrass....and I cannot remember what is what with these closeups.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Thanks for those pics. Would clover be "strong" enough to push up through heavy thatch? I know brassicas & grains would.

 

[Foggy47]

Thanks for those pics. Would clover be "strong" enough to push up through heavy thatch? I know brassicas & grains would.

It does for me. No problem. Everything wants to find the sun.

 

[Foggy47]

It does for me. No problem. Everything wants to find the sun.

I do think using my drill has some advantages over broadcasting tho........it will clear a path through that mulch and debris to depost the seeds in or on the soil....and pack those seeds with the press wheels. More assured of good seed to soil contact with a drill.