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Ouch, high fence deer that got loose

H20fwler

5 year old buck +

Hunter #1 no trouble at all, just sucks that buck wasn't wild. Will have a sweet free big deer rack/meat and interesting story with it.
Hunter #2 ...he is in trouble. That one will cost him a lot and some bench time.
 

spaniel

5 year old buck +
I think one of the takeaways from the initial story of the penned buck escaping is that there needs to be harsher penalties for farms where captive-raised native species have escapes. How the hell does that even happen? Without even getting into CWD specifically, we know that farm-raised animals have been significant sources of disease. This seems to be a continuous problem and multiple states have had issues with it.
Have you ever raised livestock? An escape isn't if, but when. It's like Jurassic Park. They will find a way. Eventually any system will have a weakness and animals will escape. Deer live in forests, what happens when a storm hits and trees go down on the fence?
 

buckdeer1

5 year old buck +
Kind of strange it happened twice already this year
 

roymunson

5 year old buck +
I cannot imagine being so insecure that I called F&S to write about a buck I was lying about. Good grief. Poor guy probably has a lot of other BS going on in his life, but that's not excuse.

Everyone, go sit in the woods and enjoy it. Stop overthinking things. Leave your phones and social media at home. Kill something with a pointy stick.
 

Tree Spud

5 year old buck +
Can't understand how he expected no one to question a monster buck of that magnitude that no one ever saw or had any history with in the area.

Guess you can't fix stupid ...
 

Native Hunter

5 year old buck +
Here is that Indiana high fence spot. 145 acres including the stocked pond, the lodge, the pen for the breeding stock, and the livestock shooting area.

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Wonder how much for a helicopter hunt with a machine gun on that place? I’m running low on jerky.
 

buckdeer1

5 year old buck +
It didn't. One got loose, one was shot inside the high fence and lied about.
I agree not completely the same but I can;t remember the last time either type of these incidents happened before,probably has though.We had 6 bull elk escape a elk farm one night and we had to harvest and butcher them.I took a couple days to find them all.Worst elk meat I ever tried to eat
 

Wind Gypsy

5 year old buck +
More on the farmed cervidae industry in MN.
 
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chucker66

5 year old buck +
Am I the only one who finds the Minnesota Board of Animal Health (BAH) funny? Who's the Director , Ebenezer Scrooge? :emoji_laughing: There's also something a bit ironic in the idea of; " save the deer from CWD so we can kill them instead?" Look I'm against deer farms as well or any wild game species but I also struggle a bit with telling someone what they can do on their own land. Who decides?

Chuck
 

Hoytvectrix

5 year old buck +
Am I the only one who finds the Minnesota Board of Animal Health (BAH) funny? Who's the Director , Ebenezer Scrooge? :emoji_laughing: There's also something a bit ironic in the idea of; " save the deer from CWD so we can kill them instead?" Look I'm against deer farms as well or any wild game species but I also struggle a bit with telling someone what they can do on their own land. Who decides?

Chuck
As long as someone is not breaking the laws and what happens on their land only affects their land, I think most on this forum would agree that the government should keep their hands off. My issue is that there are clear examples of people doing things on their land that affect others or the environment. In this case, raise wild animals that apparently are difficult to contain, and when they escape, are potentially spreading diseases into wild animals.
 

Wind Gypsy

5 year old buck +
Am I the only one who finds the Minnesota Board of Animal Health (BAH) funny? Who's the Director , Ebenezer Scrooge? :emoji_laughing: There's also something a bit ironic in the idea of; " save the deer from CWD so we can kill them instead?" Look I'm against deer farms as well or any wild game species but I also struggle a bit with telling someone what they can do on their own land. Who decides?

Chuck

I'm all for letting people do as they please on their land until it impacts all of the land surrounding them negatively. There's always a sliding scale here of what the surrounding community should put up with. H20fwler provided other examples with corporate farms / wind farms that the city/county/state had to make a judgement call on whether the benefits outweigh the negatives when they permitted it. I have a hard time coming up with benefits in relation to the vast majority of deer farms though. I doubt it's a real economic shot of life for the community but to the contrary when the community has to clean up their messes up.

Hunting is in many cases the basis of funding for state wildlife agencies tasked with managing ALL flora and fauna of the state. I don't find any irony in wanting to make the right choices to keep hunting defensible. Hunting for meat has one of the highest aspects of public approval of any justification. When half the herd has CWD and people are throwing deer away after testing that whole justification disappears. For what? So a very small number of people have the "freedom" to jeopardize the nearby wildlife and turn a profit? I'd bet my paycheck public perception of people paying to shoot genetically manipulated freaks in a high fence is in the single digits.

They are a risk to native wildlife and a black eye for hunters and hunting in general.
 

PatinPA

5 year old buck +
My uncle worked for a high fence outfit a while ago. Then he decided to buy a couple deer and raise them in hopes of selling them for a profit. His never got larger than a 9 point and he ended up losing money in the long run. His stories of the "hunts" that people took there were pretty much exactly what you would think. His job was to herd whatever the desired animal was in front of the hunter. Usually happened in a 3 or 4 acre pen. They did have a larger whitetail pen but they were pretty much tame. We got a tour of the place once and we drove a truck right up to most of them. It closed down preCWD in PA.
 
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