Odd rim/tire issue

[yoderjac]

I was working on a new box blind this weekend and used my Kioti DK45 to transport tools and supplies in the loader. When we got ready to leave, we noticed the front tire was flat. Fortunately my wife had driven the ATV out. So, I removed the rim and tire and took it back to the barn on the ATV. I washed it down well and got it wet then tried to add air. The max pressure is 40 psi but my gauge was reading over 30 before I put in air. I added air until it was at 40. It was solid, rock hard. I could find no leaks.

I took it back out and put it on the tractor. It was rock hard, but when I dropped the tractor on it, it looked slightly low. As soon as I started to drive, it went flat and came half way off the rim this time. I pulled it again and brought it home. I'll take it to my auto mechanic on Monday to check it out.

Maybe my gauge was off, or it has a leak I could not find. It just seemed odd to me.

Any thoughts? could a sidewall wear out over time and just not be able to support the weight?

Thanks,

Jack

 

[MRBB]

could be a few things from yes, a weak side wall, or a crack ina side wall that when in the right spot, causes air to leak
could be a bent wheel too, and again, when in right spot under weight it is allowing air to get out!
if tire or wheel is bad,, I gather you could always have foam filled to solve issue over buying new??
a s long as not bent badly!

 

[yoderjac]

Thanks. I can't see a visible bend in the rim, bit anything is possible. I'll know more later in the week when my auto shop has a chance to look at it. Thanks for the tip of foam. I hand not though of that.

 

[Rit]

I had a similar issue but it was on a small trailer. I went to use it one day and it had a flat tire. Put air in it everything was fine. I could drag the empty trailer around and everything again was fine. The moment the thing went under load it would be flat in a few minutes. I could never find a leak and it would always inflate up with no issues.

I finally swapped the two front tires and the trouble stayed on the same side so it made me check out the rim closer. Very small dent on the rim. I still don’t see how it was causing the tire to go flat but it did. I ended up putting a tube in the tire and it has been fine since. Still frustrating to deal with when you have work to do.

 

[yoderjac]

I just took a look at foam. Looks expensive and heavy. It would probably cost more than a new rim and tire and would add weight. I would not want it to be unbalanced so I'd be filling both front tires.

So, if the rim is bent or the tire bad, it looks like a new one is a better bet from what I can tell just googling around.

Thanks,

Jack

 

[ruskbucks]

I had a bad valve that caused problems like what you are having. I would air it up and it would be good until you ran it or it sat for a long time. I heard the big problem with the foam is it makes a really rough ride.

 

[yoderjac]

I had a bad valve that caused problems like what you are having. I would air it up and it would be good until you ran it or it sat for a long time. I heard the big problem with the foam is it makes a really rough ride.

Another valid possibility!

 

[davidhelmly]

I had a bad valve that caused problems like what you are having. I would air it up and it would be good until you ran it or it sat for a long time. I heard the big problem with the foam is it makes a really rough ride.

I have had valve stem issues also, without a cap it doesn't take much debris in one to make it leak.

 

[MRBB]

I just took a look at foam. Looks expensive and heavy. It would probably cost more than a new rim and tire and would add weight. I would not want it to be unbalanced so I'd be filling both front tires.

So, if the rim is bent or the tire bad, it looks like a new one is a better bet from what I can tell just googling around.

Thanks,

Jack

well sorry about the suggestion then, been a few yrs since I had one filled
but used to be fairly priced to have done in my area, and I liked the added weight(ride quality sucked afterwards tough LOL)

like other guy said, a TUBE can also be installed over replacing tire/wheel if things are bent and causing the leak, and tubes SHOULD be cheaper than a whole new tire, and for sure a new wheel!

you can also maybe get lucky at a tractor salvage yard, I imagine that they used the same wheel on a LOT of models, just need to find a part number and look if, needed!
just suggestions trying to help

 

[yoderjac]

well sorry about the suggestion then, been a few yrs since I had one filled
but used to be fairly priced to have done in my area, and I liked the added weight(ride quality sucked afterwards tough LOL)

like other guy said, a TUBE can also be installed over replacing tire/wheel if things are bent and causing the leak, and tubes SHOULD be cheaper than a whole new tire, and for sure a new wheel!

you can also maybe get lucky at a tractor salvage yard, I imagine that they used the same wheel on a LOT of models, just need to find a part number and look if, needed!
just suggestions trying to help

All suggestions are welcome. Brainstorming is the place to start.

 

[Northbound]

I've had the valves get funky and do strange things on tractors and skidsteers. Take it out, clean and screw back in and usually solves it.
As for foam filled, if you never get onto black top it's not bad. But driving equipment at say 15mph or more becomes dreaded if you have foamed tires

 

[yoderjac]

Dropped it off at the shop tonight. Will see what they say tomorrow.

 

[yoderjac]

Turns out it was leaking around the bead. They put bead sealer in it. Time will tell if it holds up or if I'll need a tube or new tire. Looks like the rim is not bent.

 

[MRBB]

might have got dirt in when low on air and then was never allowing a good seal on tire to wheel contact
it can happen
sounds like a cheap fix, so, call it a win LOL

 

[yoderjac]

might have got dirt in when low on air and then was never allowing a good seal on tire to wheel contact
it can happen
sounds like a cheap fix, so, call it a win LOL

Very likely. I was fixing some mud holes in the road with a loader not long ago. I had mud up over my axles. I'm headed to the farm tomorrow. I'll find out if the fix holds.

 

[yoderjac]

Replaced it today. Looks like it is holding. I did not drive it yet as I had other tasks, but there was no sign of it being low when I put the weight of the tractor on it.

 

[yoderjac]

Well, you're not going to believe my luck. Tire worked great! I did a little brush clearing and then started to work on a mudd hole on a logging road. After about an hour or so of digging and working, the wheel fell off! I can't get the tow truck till Monday. Man!...

 

[Northbound]

Well, you're not going to believe my luck. Tire worked great! I did a little brush clearing and then started to work on a mudd hole on a logging road. After about an hour or so of digging and working, the wheel fell off! I can't get the tow truck till Monday. Man!...

Stack enough stuff (weight) on the 3 point brush hog and you can drive without front tires. Steer with the brakes, i know for a fact that this works, made it between my neighbors farm and mine on the rear tires

 

[yoderjac]

Stack enough stuff (weight) on the 3 point brush hog and you can drive without front tires. Steer with the brakes, i know for a fact that this works, made it between my neighbors farm and mine on the rear tires

I'm sure it is possible, but I can't imagine trying to trailer it that way. It is a tight fit on my trailer. I can't imagine steering it on with breaks and weight on the bushhog.

Thanks,

Jack

 

[Tree Spud]

If the tire had been flat for some time, the tire may be deformed just enough to not maintain a tight seal once inflated.