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Bowsnbucks

5 year old buck +
I've snipped off half the new growth on the "candles" (as they're called) on a dwarf pine at my home. It works to make pines more dense. At camp - too many to do that to.
 

Bowsnbucks

5 year old buck +
For you guys who've done bulk plantings - do you use mechanized tree planters??
 

H20fwler

5 year old buck +
Planted over 100 2' tall white pines five or six years ago along road with no protection, I would say 75% got browsed to death, rubbed to death or were in a forty yard long wet spot. Two years ago started caging the survivors.

What they looked like almost exactly two years ago when caged

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How they look today

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BuckSutherland

5 year old buck +
The power of a simple cage.... Try a 4x4 weed mat and some mulch to murder some of that grass on a few for an experiment and watch what happens..... I would expect the ones in those pictures to double in size in one growing season. That grass is holding you back significantly. You could mulch 4 trees in about half an hour for $20 and it will give you some very valuable feedback. I'd be out mulching everything valuable to me in my woods if it wasnt buried with 2 feet of snow.



When these little guys hit 5-6 years old for me I expect them all to be 10-12+ feet tall. I've suppressed their weeds and caged from the beginning and likely have one of the shortest growing seasons of anyone on HT.



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Bill

Administrator
For you guys who've done bulk plantings - do you use mechanized tree planters??

My neighbor just planted about 5000 this way last spring. That is, with a tow behind planter and two grandkids on it.
I’m expecting a complete failure. But I’ve been dead wrong in the past.


Just once :emoji_stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
 

Bowsnbucks

5 year old buck +
My neighbor just planted about 5000 this way last spring. That is, with a tow behind planter and two grandkids on it.
I’m expecting a complete failure. But I’ve been dead wrong in the past.
You don't think the grandkids did a good job?? Or the machine didn't do as it should have??

As for grass & weed competition, I've sprayed cleth & gly around evergreens - carefully - to cut competition. It works really well when the trees get the most nutrition instead of the grass & weeds. Quick and doesn't cost much to do a lot of trees. They grow faster with no comp.
 

BuckSutherland

5 year old buck +
^^^^

Here is some further illustration of what removing all the existing competition can do for the plants you are trying to grow. A few years ago (2018) the coop guy had some real trouble steering the spray and ran over a bunch of my soybeans on some curves in my ag production fields. It left me with almost no survivors in those places, but the beans that did survive..... WOW is all I can say!! I have never seen so many pods on one plant. I had 10-12 stragglers that survived across a couple hundred feet, and they MAJORLY pumped out the pods. A few of them were pushing 300 pods per plant. Most guys would do cartwheels getting 55-60 pods per plant. The stems were quadruple the normal size of my other plants. It set off light bells for what needed to happen in the woods 200 miles away.

REDUCING COMPETITION IS EVERYTHING IN THE PLANT WORLD. I steer away from chemical applications in my woods. Weed mat and mulch is as close as it gets to naturally eliminating the competition. The pictures dont do these plants any justice. They were that impressive.


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Bill

Administrator
You don't think the grandkids did a good job?? Or the machine didn't do as it should have??

No I think the deer will pull them all up. Every seedling I ever planted got pulled out of the ground and spit on the ground.
 

Bowsnbucks

5 year old buck +
No I think the deer will pull them all up. Every seedling I ever planted got pulled out of the ground and spit on the ground.
Ouch. Cages / fencing and planted in stages?? I wonder why deer would just yank and spit. If they ate them it would at least seem to make sense. What'd you do to piss off your deer, Bill??
 

roymunson

5 year old buck +
Ouch. Cages / fencing and planted in stages?? I wonder why deer would just yank and spit. If they ate them it would at least seem to make sense. What'd you do to piss off your deer, Bill??
Those deer are fighting back. They've been shot, oppressed, and shot for too long... stickin it to the man.
 

ksJoe

Yearling... With promise
Ouch. Cages / fencing and planted in stages?? I wonder why deer would just yank and spit. If they ate them it would at least seem to make sense. What'd you do to piss off your deer, Bill??
If it was shortly after planting, before the roots were established, maybe they were just trying to eat them. They could just be trying to pull off a bite, but the seeding pulls out easier than breaking the stem.
The deer might have been going down the line muttering about all these trees are defective and don't bite like they should.
 

Bill

Administrator
If it was shortly after planting, before the roots were established, maybe they were just trying to eat them. They could just be trying to pull off a bite, but the seeding pulls out easier than breaking the stem.
The deer might have been going down the line muttering about all these trees are defective and don't bite like they should.

This was my suspicion. It was within a week or two of planting. They pulled every last one and by the time I noticed they had dried out in the sun. And we’re talking 500 of them not just a couple. Not one survived. To boot they were Norway spruce, supposedly deer resistant.
 
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