I love Yates as well. For you guys in colder climates than Pike County, my place has seen -25 over the last couple of years and Yates has done fine. Mine are also holding tight. I am wondering, Dan, when do the majority of yours drop or do they trickle all winter? I am not at my place over the winter but I noticed I had some dried up ones on the tree last March or May. One other thing about Yates is that they are a pretty good eater if picked (on my place anyway) about the first week of November. They are also precocious, DR and productive. I grafted quite a few seedling crabs over to Yates this past spring for these reasons.