CI just googled what was the penalty for concealed carry without a permit in New York State, the results state that it is a Class A misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail, 3 years probation and a $1000 fine. If it were me, I would say screw the permit and it’s process to obtain it…Carry concealed anywhere and everywhere I see fit for my safety and my family’s safety, and to hell with the rules! Now, I will say, that by and large I am a legit rule follower, but this gun stuff has become a political tool to harass one political party or the other, nothing more, nothing less. It has become tiresome to even read headlines or listen to the back and forth bull#$%^!! Just tuck it in your pants, there is only 2 reasons you will be caught…1. You pull the damned thing and use it for exactly the reason you are carrying it (good for you and the rest of society)…or 2. Some weird stuff happens and you become disrobed or naked on the street or someone sees it and calls the PoPo and you get a ticket. Seriously, it is concealed for a reason. If no one knows you have it, you have done it correctly. If weird stuff happens and you get patted down by the cops and they find it…one in a million chance right there. I’m 48 and have never been patted down by a cop. Nuff said. Carry away and be safe.