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chummer
5 year old buck +
Can’t help you with the gun but if you are looking for a new pup look at wired hair pointing griffons. I got one four years ago after posting “what dog to get”. She is the greatest dog ever. With no training she damn near catches the birds by herself. The breed are close hunters so they never leave your sight. I also let her track my deer and she does a great job finding those as well.
ksgobbler
5 year old buck +
Im sorry you suck at shooting.
Freeborn
5 year old buck +
Doubtful, I have probably shot more roosters than anybody on this board. Grew up on the Iowa border, hunted southern Minnesota, Iowa and South Dakota for 35 years. Many farms in the family and with extended friends. Prefer flushing dogs for the experience. I have seen 100+ bird flushes and many in between. I'm assuming your hunting wild birds and not game farm?
Late season birds alone are not made for short shots and therefore are better hunted with an autoloader.
ksgobbler
5 year old buck +
Never hunted a game farm. Late season choke top barrel full, bottom modified. If you are good with an O/U you can reload and get off 4 shots instead of the auto loader 3. Also if we get into quail it takes about 2 seconds to take the pheasant loads out and swap to 7.5s for quail. Lets face it I would be embarrassed if it took me 3 shots at the same rooster to bring it down.
Freeborn
5 year old buck +
What happens when you get into a double or maybe a triple that fly in opposite directions? What happens when you have walked 5+ miles that day and birds are scarce and the bird flushes at 40 yards in strong winds?
Sorry but I grew up hunting with regular folks and they did not take shot count seriously. They were more happy just getting the birds.
To each there own, enjoy the double, I'll enjoy my autoloader.
WTNUT
5 year old buck +
What length barrel do you have on the 686? I really want to brag, but I have been told all my life that I am a heck of a shot on anything moving with my semi-autos (birds or rabbits). It is really hard for me to imagine being much better with an over and under. Then again, part of my success follows the saying beware of the man with one gun. I have several but for most of my life it was a Browing light twelve made in 1965 and for the last 20 years it has been a Benelli.
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Telemark
5 year old buck +
It's not something I really consider. The first O/U i bought was because it was a good value, and money was tight. The next O/U I buy will be because of how it points/swings for me, and I will have saved enough to get whatever shotgun will help me kill birds.
All things being equal, I would take the shorter gun because I often hunt in the woods.
roymunson
5 year old buck +
While this may be true, the weener measuring in implies is pretty funny... Relax man...
Freeborn
5 year old buck +
It's all good, pick your weapon and enjoy!
4wanderingeyes
5 year old buck +
I have several guns to choose from, including an o/u, auto, and pump. When I am duck hunting, it is usually the sxs that is taken, ok always! When I am upland hunting, it is either the sxs, or a 870 pump with a 26" barrel. But it keeps getting harder and harder not to just grab the sxs on any bird hunt. The gun is just so light, and reliable, and fast, it is hard to grab a different gun when going. As for the o/u, I will take it out when I hunt with my older friends, and they drool on it, because that is what they were taught was the best bird gun. With present day technology, I disagree. I would compare it to taking matches, or a lighter to start a fire, they both will work, but one is just easier!
Dukslayr
5 year old buck +
I actually don’t know off the top of my head. I want to say 26” but they could be 28”.
John-W-WI
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Sorry, you lost me at "getting rid of". Didn't read anything about the guns.
You get a dog, they are your dog until they aren't a dog anymore.
-John
WTNUT
5 year old buck +
Chummer I agree with you they are a great breed. A friend has two dandy dogs. He is a little older than I, and does like the short running dogs. I will eventually get some shorter dogs, but not just yet. I can keep mine short unless I am hunting three or four of them then it is a competition!
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WTNUT
5 year old buck +
Okay, not commenting on who has shot the most pheasants, but that would have been a great place to grow up. And, even though I have always had pointers I do respect a good flushing dog. A lot of people do not fully understand what a good short lab will do with pheasants in grass.
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WTNUT
5 year old buck +
I have started quite a thread. I will say I am a pretty good shot, but I will have to admit that I should perhaps be embarrassed because I know I have shot three times at a rooster in the past and killed him. I don’t know how often, but I know darn well I have done it.
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WTNUT
5 year old buck +
John,
Generally I agree with you about the dogs. However, I have been lucky to have train and hunt with a lot of good ones. I have never sold or given away any of mine in the past, but if I could find the right young man or woman who wanted to give him a good home and let him teach them a thing or two about bird hunting because they wanted to start bird hunting I would probably let him go. Three bird dogs at one time is all I have ever had, and it really is the max I can have at one time in my SUBDIVISION. AND, THAT IS ONE OVER THE LIMIT ALLOWED BY THE CITY. HA HA. They come by from time to time and I am always watching a buddy’s dog. Ha
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You can't get rid of a bird dog regardless of what up and comer you have.
Lots of birds have been killed on the 3rd, 4th and 5th shots. In my opinion there are lots of over/under guys that thumb their nose at anyone using "lesser" guns. Kind of like fly fishing guys who feel superior and thumb their noses at bait fishers.
My gun of choice is a Remington 870 and a like fishing with worms! To each his own though as long as it's legal.
Lots of birds have been killed on the 3rd, 4th and 5th shots. In my opinion there are lots of over/under guys that thumb their nose at anyone using "lesser" guns. Kind of like fly fishing guys who feel superior and thumb their noses at bait fishers.
My gun of choice is a Remington 870 and a like fishing with worms! To each his own though as long as it's legal.
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