Your best persimmon purchase?

[Mattyq2402]

What has been the best persimmon purchase for deer draw? I’m going to move from pear and apple to persimmon in my next few purchases. Looking for best overall Whitetail’s draw and best nursery for overall quality. Are there any hidden gems that aren’t well known in persimmon types for deer?

 

[Telemark]

Oh you're in luck. There are several deer-specific persimmon varieties out there now. This is also my next project. I'm planning to order some rootstock today. Check out the scion exchange thread. And have a look at the Blue Hill website for trees and a great drop time chart:

Persimmon Trees

Information on our American persimmon trees and seedlings that we sell at Blue Hill Wildlife Nursery.

bluehillwildlifenursery.com

 

[Mattyq2402]

Oh you're in luck. There are several deer-specific persimmon varieties out there now. This is also my next project. I'm planning to order some rootstock today. Check out the scion exchange thread. And have a look at the Blue Hill website for trees and a great drop time chart:

Persimmon Trees

Information on our American persimmon trees and seedlings that we sell at Blue Hill Wildlife Nursery.

bluehillwildlifenursery.com

I was curious about blue hill, I can never get an order in time

 

[Teeder]

I don't have any that have produced yet, but I will say, of the different sources I've bought persimmons from, the ones from Bluehill have grown and survived the best. My oldest are Deer Magnets and I hope they're within a year or 2 of producing.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

I don't have any that have produced yet, but I will say, of the different sources I've bought persimmons from, the ones from Bluehill have grown and survived the best. My oldest are Deer Magnets and I hope they're within a year or 2 of producing.

how long do they usually take to produce? I'm intrigued by them as something to make my place stand out, but I am also very impatient (also have never had one to eat so that would be a draw also)

 

[Teeder]

how long do they usually take to produce? I'm intrigued by them as something to make my place stand out, but I am also very impatient (also have never had one to eat so that would be a draw also)

From BH regarding Deer Magnet:

"This very late dropping persimmons are great for some late season hunting and will begin producing in as little as 3 years."

Pretty sure this will be year 4 for mine. They're about 8' tall.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

From BH regarding Deer Magnet:

"This very late dropping persimmons are great for some late season hunting and will begin producing in as little as 3 years."

Pretty sure this will be year 4 for mine. They're about 8' tall.

i think im gonna hold off a year (a statement rarely uttered by fruit tree anonymous members) on the persimmons and try to make some room in a fencerow because they get so big

 

[Derek Reese 29]

I didnt hold off a year... I just happened to make my way over to Blue Hill's webiste (ok I might check it more often than not)...and now I have a Full Draw and a Yates persimmon coming in the spring...this forum is a bad (see:good) influence for a guy just trying to get through winter and not order more trees...now I gotta clear out a space for both of em....

 

[BrushyPines]

I have native persimmons all over my place. They usually drop the whole month of October with some lingering into the beginning of November. I've planted Deer Magnet, Full Draw and Morris Burton from BH hoping to get a later drop time. Trees have done well, just havent been in the ground long enough to produce. If you're looking for a persimmon for human consumption, you can't go wrong with a Fuyu. I'm just not sure how far north a Fuyu can be planted.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

I've been buying some of the named persimmons out there (none of which are producing yet), but my main strategy is just planting bare root American persimmons. They are cheap and grow pretty quickly. Some of my bare root seedlings were out of five foot tree tubes and flowering in 4 years. They apparently won't produce as quickly as the larger and more expensive named varieties, but it seems like persimmons are easy enough to graft over to whatever you want in a few years anyways. I would do a bit of both and cast a wide net.

 

[Angus 1895]

I bought persimmons at my first attempt at trees. They were potted , I think from Home depot.

They all died. Some lingered for two years.

Then two years ago I bought some from MDC….they arrived at 7 degrees and I didn’t find them till the next morning. It’s funny they didn’t alert me they shipped but axed me immediately how I liked them.

Anyways they got thawed out, potted and grew in the nursery until fall. They all lived, some doing better than others. I believe they don’t tolerate flooding, So I only plant them where the farm is sprinkle irrigated and not flood irrigated.

I then bought some seeds, I only got two of them to grow. They got planted this fall.
They were hard for me to sprout.

It’s only year 3 for me but I would so far buy more from MDC.

I really enjoy eating them from the Asian market I got to in the twin cities. They are a seedless variety.

 

[Charles Clear]

My first one to produce were from MDC nursery. I bought their seedlings. I ended up with mostly male trees, but the females produced in year 3. Now I know Prok is an oriental variety, but it has been my best grower and producer. The persimmons are quite large too.

 

[Angus 1895]

I live in the lemhi valley in Idaho.

I moved here about 10 years ago.

The locals told me many of the first settlers left due the inability to grow a garden.

We get wicked frosts up through mid May. It can snow in June.

Yet it’s zone 4A.

We get 13 inches of precipitation a year, and the soil is pH 7.3 to 7.4.

The voles peaked two years ago. I finally learned to screen the seedlings last year.

The voles nibbled a lot of trees to death.

I finally got ground tarps and mule manure compost on every tree but a few. I think I’m gaining, but I believe my growth rate will be at best 1/2 of normal.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

My first one to produce were from MDC nursery. I bought their seedlings. I ended up with mostly male trees, but the females produced in year 3. Now I know Prok is an oriental variety, but it has been my best grower and producer. The persimmons are quite large too.

That's incredible you had some seedlings producing in their third year. I believe Prok is actually an American. I bought several Prok and Prok x Szukis seeds this past fall that are all germinating right now. I'm excited to see how they do compared to the other Americans I have planted.