can jump to around the 7:30 time
That's how @Natty Bumppo hunts...
He said he shot him at point blank range but its hard to see recoil or hear a shot, almost looks like he just racked a live round out of it. Must just be muffled with the deer right off the barrel?
Pretty neat to see the different ways in which we hunt these deer. What did the scale say?
Do they require deer to be whole for transport in the northeast where these tactics are common? Growing up in MN I never thought anything of always having to drag a deer out. Hell, my uncle got a moose out of the boundary waters wilderness whole decades ago. After breaking down and packing out a bunch of animals in the west, it seems so stupid to have to keep an animal intact. I think my mule deer this year would have been a half mile downhill drag to a truck but he definitely got carried out in pieces.Agree Mortenson. And your question about the weight speaks precisely to your comment. Big woods trackers aren't selecting deer for antler mass or points...or age. They are selecting for body mass. 200 lbs. is the generally accepted unofficial minimum weight for what trackers consider to be a "trophy." Though in reality, any deer that a hunter tracks down and kills in the big woods is a trophy. Killing them is often the easy part. Getting a 200 lb. buck out of the big woods can often be a 5, 6, 7 hour endeavour that will test even the fittest man.
I like to tease and jokingly "argue" with people when the whole "western hunting" vs "eastern hunting" thing comes up. Yeah sure you walked a long way to get there, but then you just sat on your ass all day too. Sitting up on a knob looking through binoculars or a spotting scope, that must be really hard being able to see miles and mile of countside in all directions.Come hunt where I do, there's some great views. You can see close to 20 yards that way, 8 yards that way, 16 yards that way, and if you come over here a lean just right, you can see almost 45 yards through the trees.
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I wish I had sections big enough to do that around me. I did it a couple times in the Northwoods when I used to hunt the national Forest and papermill land. Never successful but was fun to try. Of course much younger then!
Do they require deer to be whole for transport in the northeast where these tactics are common? Growing up in MN I never thought anything of always having to drag a deer out. Hell, my uncle got a moose out of the boundary waters wilderness whole decades ago. After breaking down and packing out a bunch of animals in the west, it seems so stupid to have to keep an animal intact. I think my mule deer this year would have been a half mile downhill drag to a truck but he definitely got carried out in pieces.
This is a great question. It came up last year on a Facebook group I am on called Big Woods Bucks. I wasn't sure of the answer myself, so I looked up Maine, VT, and Mass. It turns out the entire carcass does not have to be presented at the check station in Maine and VT. I forgot the law in my own state of Mass. I am going to speculate that dragging the deer out is just part of the culture...not dissimilar to the wearing of green and black buffalo plaid "woolies" and LaCrosse rubber boots and Remington pumps. It's also communal...when the buck is down you're buddies all get to help drag it out. It's also maybe partly due to coyotes. If you're 5 miles in the backcountry and leave a deer to go back to the truck to get the packframe and butchering gear, by the time you get back that deer might be chewed up. Leaving a jacket over the deer can prevent this. You're also going to walk 5 miles out...5 miles back in...and then 5 miles back out again with the meat. Might as well just drag it out? Lastly, there is also the cultural tradition of driving into town with a buck strapped over the hood or in the bed that still holds a lot of significance. Small towns all over Maine and VT have the local check stations at the local mom and pop general stores in each town. It's kind of a meet and greet and show off your deer and pat each other on the back kind of thing.
Moose and elk...totally different story. But for a deer in the Northeast in the tracking culture it's just dragged out.