I'm going to experiment this year a bit...i've got 3 small plots (between 1/4-1/2 acre) that I am going to T-N-M in early august with brassica's. These were winter wheat / rye / clover mix plots. I've got seed heads on these, and there is some bare ground showing, so it will be interesting to see how these come in. Then, plan on frostseeding clover next year.