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Stock Market is the bottom in?
- Thread starter Peplin Creek
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Brian662
5 year old buck +
I think the economy is showing some big signs of pre-2008 economy crash, but those signs have been growing the past couple years. The problem/question is...how does the market respond. After covid I'm not sure what to think of the US markets in a recession, QE 14 or whatever number we're up to will bolster markets in the short term.
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SD51555
5 year old buck +
SIFI is what has me worried. Nobody really knows how much private placement bad debt is out there, who’s holding it, and what shape it’s in.
The government has given all of our savings as backstop capital for when the thieves finally implode the system.
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Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Watching - or trying to watch - private credit is near impossible. "Lawmakers" eliminated some of the laws that were supposed to expose behind-the-scenes deals & borrowing to the public. So - avg. American investors have no way to know who is doing what in the private debt markets. You'll find out soon enough when you discover some of your/our investments have gone down the toilet. That's the price of not knowing who is doing what to who ....... and why.
Transparency and regulations certainly have a place in our financial markets. When big-boy, billionaire insiders push for eliminating regulations in the financial industry .......... it is NOT for our benefit. It's for theirs. They just do a spectacular job of convincing the public that it's a good thing for them ...... the public. For those who believe & trust that the billionaire class is actually looking out for the avg. American's interests - - - I have several bridges and miles of river frontage I'll sell you at reasonable prices.
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
I think AT&T is about to rally bigly. jmho
bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
Anybody has a crash plan? Cashing out, moving it here, Moving 457k to stable money. Wife's 401k is in a retirement 2025 fund, which s a decent chunk stable money already. Waiting until october to move it to something that makes money.
hunts_with_stick
5 year old buck +
I keep thinking to try and move to something more safe, and I’ve sold somethings, but still invested to where I don’t miss out on these gains.
I hope T breaks out. I have a decent amount of that. I for in when it was 16 or so. Was to,d that’s one to hand down to the kids.
I hope T breaks out. I have a decent amount of that. I for in when it was 16 or so. Was to,d that’s one to hand down to the kids.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
I missed out on mountains of gains waiting and hiding from collapses that never came. I could probably have been retired by now. On one hand, there are problems brewing again. On the other, we’ve been in a state of decline/collapse for a long time.
So what do I do? Differentiate between good stocks and good companies. If you’re lucky you can find both in one. You can have the stock of good companies lag and drag, but they eventually come around. What you don’t want is a high flying meme stock that eventually falls out of favor and then never comes back because it has no underlying value.
When the shit hits the fan, I’m ok riding the wave in good companies. I don’t want to be latched onto no-profit no-cashflow meme stocks when the music stops.
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hunts_with_stick
5 year old buck +
Agreed, I have been told not to invest in feelings, so I’ve been pretty steady.
Nne has been doing well for me
Nne has been doing well for me
Westwind
5 year old buck +
Agree with this. Especially in a retirement account for a retirement that is not here but somewhere on the horizon.
It is tempting to try and go to the sidelines and then get back in right after a downturn but in reality I think that is damn near impossible.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Also been said .... The market reverts to the mean. Diversification smooths out the bumps. Anyone can still be positioned to reap the gains - and still be positioned to stabilize for a smoother ride.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Most financial professionals advise putting the bulk of our money into broad indexes, and if one wants to swing for the fences - do it with a smaller percentage of our money. If you hit some big winners (think AI and related beneficiary companies) - it's added gravy. If meme/favs fade, you're still gaining overall with stable, boring, cash-producers. Reinvesting the divs & capital gains creates a bigger, sticky ball rolling along collecting more $$$$ with those reinvested gains. "The miracle of compounding."
Once a person is diversified, good advice comes from Bogle in choppy, unstable times, "Don't just do something - stand there!"
And from Buffet, "Many times the intelligent thing to do is nothing."
H20fwler
5 year old buck +
It was around 1K for the lawyer to draw it up and fidelity will charge a portion of a percent every quarter to manage any draws on it.
We didn’t lock it in iron clad like we could have, just wanted to keep it in the family for a couple generations at least. Then great grandkids can decide?
We could have gone with the Bing Crosby type trust and it could never be broken.
Our three adult children should inherit plenty of other money we have invested and they have great jobs so we aren’t too worried about them. We have openly discussed how we would like it to play out.
bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
Finding quality companies when They're cheap. Recently IBM uhc Hitachi Amazon nova nordisk. Something established, realistic p/e, and several markets / industries or leader in a major one like uhc. Want ge Verona had a 20% leap. Thinking they're gonna split at some point here. Stock buybacks are a big attraction to me. Positive sign. Part of the reason I went with Hitachi for so mething nuclear. They got big n small reactors built, not theories or bare dirt projects.
I got a got bit in etf's. Not feeling wild about them.
A bit of dice rolling xiaomi in electric cars, softbank ai and electric and chips. Anjimoto chip parts and food too. Dakota gold. Usar. A little xrp. Monthly paycheck leftovers, yard selling the basement, saving my liver from the beer money........
I got a got bit in etf's. Not feeling wild about them.
A bit of dice rolling xiaomi in electric cars, softbank ai and electric and chips. Anjimoto chip parts and food too. Dakota gold. Usar. A little xrp. Monthly paycheck leftovers, yard selling the basement, saving my liver from the beer money........
