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[Howboutthemdawgs]

I still can't understand why they didn't take control of the strait from the very beginning. Why let Iran blockade it in the first place?

I don’t know what control looks like. With medium range missiles and an assload of cheap drones how do you ever effectively control that area

 

[KY wild]

I don’t know what control looks like. With medium range missiles and an assload of cheap drones how do you ever effectively control that area

I agree they are not trying to stop our military, that has fortified ships and defense weapons. All they have to do is to blow up or simply put a hole in a oil tanker and straight is closed. Many types of weapons from every direction could cause an oil tanker to fail. I see Iran being successful bringing one tanker down and then the rest will not risk it. Private companies delivering oil has not shown the stomach for the threat.

 

[Telemark]

I don’t know what control looks like. With medium range missiles and an assload of cheap drones how do you ever effectively control that area

Destroy the missiles, and give tankers a Navy escort with CIWS?

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I agree they are not trying to stop our military, that has fortified ships and defense weapons. All they have to do is to blow up or simply put a hole in an oil tanker and straight is closed. Many types of weapons from every direction could cause an oil tanker to fail. I see Iran being successful bringing one tanker down and then the rest will not risk it. Private companies delivering oil has not shown the stomach for the threat.

Asymmetric/drone warfare has become the great equalizer. I have followed the Ukraine Russia deal a decent bit. Drones have singlehandedly allowed Ukraine to essentially create a stalemate in what should be a lopsided victory. To put it mildly they are a deadly pain in the ass. Relentless, cheap, effective and getting better daily. Iran, which already had an advanced drone program, could easily fire drones from hundreds of miles away and cause chaos in the strait.
I’m so far from a military historian or strategist that I’m closer to being a brain surgeon, but I wonder if philosophy will have to change to “win” a war going forward. Wars back in the day seemed to be bent on total destruction. Start with military targets and work your way into civilian until someone in charge cries uncle. And then it went more precision strikes to minimize civilian casualties and cost. That was when countries relied on conventional weapons to fight. I wonder because of the seemingly endless supply of unmanned artillery if the only way to bring someone to their knees is total destruction of a country. I hope not but I don’t know how you win these days. We have destroyed their conventional military by all objective measures yet here they still are, believing they have the upper hand. Maybe taking out infrastructure is the next step, idk. It’s right to worry about the civilians and the resulting attitude after. But Germany and Japan sure took a beating and quickly understood the lesson.

 

[Native Hunter]

Asymmetric/drone warfare has become the great equalizer. I have followed the Ukraine Russia deal a decent bit. Drones have singlehandedly allowed Ukraine to essentially create a stalemate in what should be a lopsided victory. To put it mildly they are a deadly pain in the ass. Relentless, cheap, effective and getting better daily. Iran, which already had an advanced drone program, could easily fire drones from hundreds of miles away and cause chaos in the strait.
I’m so far from a military historian or strategist that I’m closer to being a brain surgeon, but I wonder if philosophy will have to change to “win” a war going forward. Wars back in the day seemed to be bent on total destruction. Start with military targets and work your way into civilian until someone in charge cries uncle. And then it went more precision strikes to minimize civilian casualties and cost. That was when countries relied on conventional weapons to fight. I wonder because of the seemingly endless supply of unmanned artillery if the only way to bring someone to their knees is total destruction of a country. I hope not but I don’t know how you win these days. We have destroyed their conventional military by all objective measures yet here they still are, believing they have the upper hand. Maybe taking out infrastructure is the next step, idk. It’s right to worry about the civilians and the resulting attitude after. But Germany and Japan sure took a beating and quickly understood the lesson.

The next evolution of war after drones will be what was taking place in Episode 23, Season 1 of the Original Star Trek. It was called "A Taste of Armageddon." In this story, two planets wage a war entirely by computer simulation, but the “casualties” are required to report to disintegration chambers to be killed as if the attacks were real. It was a lot cleaner than real war and saved a lot of money from everything getting blown to pieces.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Oil up 8% tonight. Stocks down 500.