Stock Market is the bottom in?
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BuckSutherland
5 year old buck +
Canada and Mexico aren't gonna last long. They are gonna have to cave.
Part of the last agreement on NAFTA 2.0 was that these countries and particularly Mexico would control the damn border a little. Instead the past 4 years they have facilitated the invasion of our country. They allowed millions of hostile troops to flow into this country. The cost of the invasion and the subsequent drugs pouring in here FAR exceed the little hit that will be seen from these tariffs.
Almost 400,000 dead from drug overdose during the Xiden years. Most of those deaths from illegal opioids coming in from the south. The cost from that alone to our economy far exceeds the total damage done by a couple tariffs. Throw in all the social services that the illegal invaders have gobbled up and you come to a mind boggling number.
Part of the last agreement on NAFTA 2.0 was that these countries and particularly Mexico would control the damn border a little. Instead the past 4 years they have facilitated the invasion of our country. They allowed millions of hostile troops to flow into this country. The cost of the invasion and the subsequent drugs pouring in here FAR exceed the little hit that will be seen from these tariffs.
Almost 400,000 dead from drug overdose during the Xiden years. Most of those deaths from illegal opioids coming in from the south. The cost from that alone to our economy far exceeds the total damage done by a couple tariffs. Throw in all the social services that the illegal invaders have gobbled up and you come to a mind boggling number.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
I get the lip service of stopping fentanyl. But…if fentanyl is stopped do people think that all the sudden all those people are functioning, productive members of society? I’m going to go out on a limb and say emphatically no. They will just find a new fix or go back to heroin or whatever they were doing. Fentanyl has some small accidental damage but overwhelming it is taking out the trash. I’d have more respect if we just came out and said China, stop stealing shit and we aren’t gonna finance you taking over the world and stop using slave labor, Mexico, close the border and take care of the cartels (newsflash their government is in bed with them so good luck), Canada tight your border and allow foreigners to hunt everywhere.
I know it’s not this simple but countries pay a lot more attention to the “in” door rather than the “out” door.
At the U.S./Mex border we screen the inbound probably 99% more than outbound.
(I think thats a mistake for U.S. because shutting off as much of the money flow back to Mexico should be a priority imho.)
At the U.S./Mex border we screen the inbound probably 99% more than outbound.
(I think thats a mistake for U.S. because shutting off as much of the money flow back to Mexico should be a priority imho.)
Telemark
5 year old buck +
I hope you reconsider that attitude. People suffer from addiction for a number of reasons. Their deaths are not a good thing. Many people descend into substance abuse and addiction due to being prescribed strong opioids like Oxycontin due to corrupt practices by Big Pharma. Many of the dead are victims, not perpetrators. I hope you find room in your heart for some compassion for your fellow man.
Brian662
5 year old buck +
Getting into the US at the Canadian border is a lot harder than leaving, no doubt.
Canada's Prime Minister is asking Canadians to not pay tariffs and instead to stop using American products like KY bourbon and Florida orange juice. Problem is once they move away from American products many will not go back for loyalty to their country, it will become patriotic to avoid American products. On the other hand do you think we will stop eating Mexico tomatoes or using Canada gas. No American citizens will pay more which for all practical purposes will mean you will be taxed twice but the second time the tax will be 25%.
If I find out my son is addicted to drugs, the last thing I would consider that it is China or Mexico governments fault. Statement seems ridiculous to me.
Also how is tariffs going to help slow down China from using slave labor, seems to me makes them more likely to use slave labor
If I find out my son is addicted to drugs, the last thing I would consider that it is China or Mexico governments fault. Statement seems ridiculous to me.
Also how is tariffs going to help slow down China from using slave labor, seems to me makes them more likely to use slave labor
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
My compassion doesn’t have to affect the whole economy, which impacts way more people than people who are addicted to drugs.
I wish people wouldn’t do drugs. It’s tragic and avoidable and strains families and communities. But magically stopping fentanyl isn’t going to fix anything for an addict.
There is a whole class of addicts that were injured high school athletes who were prescribed opioids, couldn’t get them after a time. Started buying street pills, started buying heroin. It really sucks.
There are also a fair amount y of kids who bought a pill on the street that looked like a prescription pill and croaked because it was really a cartel pressed fent pill. It’s really a stupid thing to do but it shouldn’t kill them.
I have sympathy for some of these people. Not all of them but a few.
There are also a fair amount y of kids who bought a pill on the street that looked like a prescription pill and croaked because it was really a cartel pressed fent pill. It’s really a stupid thing to do but it shouldn’t kill them.
I have sympathy for some of these people. Not all of them but a few.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
"I'll demand that interest rates drop immediately," Trump said. "And likewise, they should be dropping all over the world. Interest rates should follow us all over."
-2 weeks later-
“I’m not surprised,” he said regarding the decision, according to multiple reports. “Holding the rates at this point was the right thing to do.”
It’s like a cat chasing a laser pointer sometimes. Some great policies…some wild ramblings.
-2 weeks later-
“I’m not surprised,” he said regarding the decision, according to multiple reports. “Holding the rates at this point was the right thing to do.”
It’s like a cat chasing a laser pointer sometimes. Some great policies…some wild ramblings.
I'd wager that most fentanyl deaths in the US are "casual" drug users. Somebody thinks they're taking Molly or some other generally not lethal drug at a concert or social gathering, but what they're actually taking is something that had fentanyl cut in/added. Young people do stupid shit. That probably doesn't mean they should pay the ultimate price for their stupidity.
Telemark
5 year old buck +
Why do you say this?
Fidelity's site is down again, and I'm dying to get to bed, but this mayhem has me feeling like I should stay up and stick it out.
BenA
5 year old buck +
Why put in a time to go into effect if you didn't want to cause some type of reaction? It's a game of chicken.
Telemark
5 year old buck +
I dare say reducing the availability of hard drugs in our country would be good for the economy and society in general.
Telemark
5 year old buck +
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
Of course. You truly think that’s possible??? We can manufacture all the hard drugs we ever need to satisfy the demand. As long as there is demand, there will be supply to meet. We have an f’d up view on drugs that basically excuses, promotes or victimizes users. It’s super easy to not do drugs. Addiction is a choice not a disease.
Telemark
5 year old buck +
Addiction is the complete opposite of choice. It's a compulsion that overrides every other thought and feeling in the individual's mind.
Hard drugs in our society can be reduced by increasing law enforcement and border security. This isn't even speculation. It is well known from observing the results of historical and current policies.
