Rootmaker tree help.

TxA&Mhunter

5 year old buck +
So I have 4 -6 trays of various oaks that are all putting on a lot of growth once I moved them outside.
I had some (18ish) in regular small pots that got stolen by squirrels... the squirrel dug all up and ate them...
so it has me worried...my questions are below.

1- would building a green house be the best solution for this? And would it allow me to get more growth from the trees? Or would a shade housengetnkore growth from them?

2-how do I know when trees are ready to come out of the rootmakers?
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If they are in 18s, the rule of thumb is 12 to 16 weeks. You then transplant into 1, 2, or 3 gal Rootbuilder II containers. I personally prefer to go from 18s to 1 gal and then to 3 gals. The specific time depends on the tree. When you use a well drained professional mix in you 18s, there are lots of voids and water runs right through the container out the bottom holes when you first plant them. As they grow, the air pruning causes upstream branching. As this continues, the roots fill the voids in the mix and it becomes hard to top water the 18s. You put a little water on top and it sits there for a bit before soaking in. You then add a little more and the same thing happens. You have to keep doing this until water finally begins dripping out of the bottom holes. It now takes a long time to water them. This means they are definitely ready to transplant. If you goal is to maximize growth, Dr. Whitcomb says it is better to transplant slightly early than late.

I generally remove the nuts when I transplant. This makes them less attractive to squirrels but they still want to dig in them and often bite them off. Squirrels are territorial so if you eliminate them from you area, it takes a year or so for more to move in. I use a box trap and forced conversion (baptism). Another approach is to build cages out of chicken wire stapled to some kind of frame. Keep in mind you need to slowly acclimate trees started under lights indoors to the sun. I start by putting mine on the lower deck which only gets an hour or two of direct morning sun and then filtered sun for the rest of the morning and shade in the afternoon. After several weeks I move them to my top deck that gets full sun all morning and shade in the afternoon. For sun loving trees, after a few weeks there, I move them to a spot in my yard that gets full sun. The rest I leave on that top deck. Cages let you move the trees as needed and keep them protected from squirrels.

I've considered a greenhouse but can't talk myself into it. You can't start trees in a green house in the winter because of the low angle and intensity of the winter sun. You still need artificial lighting in the winter. A heated greenhouse would let me start taking trees out a few weeks earlier but it isn't worth the cost, effort, and space to me. You should be able to find picture of guys setups with 2x4 frames and chicken wire. I don't bother with that. I do lose a few trees to squirrels each spring before I eliminate them but that is simply because I get lazy and don't start trapping them soon enough.

This thread shows my preferred transplanting for chestnuts: http://www.habitat-talk.com/index.p...h-rootmakers-transfered-from-qdma-forum.5556/ It works well for my area and climate and for most trees I grow.

Thanks,

Jack
 
Thanks for the reply. I already lost 18 to the tree rats! I think I'll build or buy a small 6-4 greenhouse so I don't have to worry I think it will also slow me to shade sun when in need to in the Texas heat. And it would mean I could move all my trees off my back deck lol.
 
I'd chat with MattPatt. He does a lot of container grown seedlings in Tx.
 
I go right from the 18's to the three gallon rootmakers then they are fine until fall when I plant them.
For squirrels just buy some chicken wire and pen them up, top too. I buy the 36" and just make a TP out of it for each pot, by the time they grow to the top squirrels are a non issue and you can open top up but I leave it around pots to keep bunnies from being stupid especially on fruit trees.
 
I go right from the 18's to the three gallon rootmakers then they are fine until fall when I plant them.
For squirrels just buy some chicken wire and pen them up, top too. I buy the 36" and just make a TP out of it for each pot, by the time they grow to the top squirrels are a non issue and you can open top up but I leave it around pots to keep bunnies from being stupid especially on fruit trees.

Nothing wrong with that. I think the decision to use 1s in between 18s and 3s is a function of my location.
 
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