Rear Hydrolic hookup?

[SWIFFY]

Looking at smaller tractors... I see some have multiple hookups, some have 1, and some have no hydrolics but only the 3 pt and PTO.

Whats your opinion on this and how important is a rear hookup to you? What do you use it for? How expensive/difficult is it to add later?

Thanks

 

[SWIFFY]

Sorry i meant for this to go in the "Tractors, implements forum".....

Thanks for moving it!

 

[SwampCat]

I have a 30 hp and a 65 hp tractor. The 30 hp has no rear hookups and the 65 hp had one and I added another for $1000. The bigger the tractor, the more you need one or more. I don't really find myself wishing for one on my 30 hp, but on a new tractor, I would want one, so I could at least use a hydraulic top link. The only thing I use more than one on is a hydraulic rear blade - which is too big for my 30 hp tractor.

 

[sagittarius]

I cannot imagine owning a tractor without at least rear hydraulics. It makes the tractor more useful and increases the variety of implements it can utilize. Tow type implements (disks) also work better than 3pt implements, and you need to be able to raise and lower them with an hydraulic cylinder.

 

[Dukslayr]

I had a 38 hp tractor with no rear remotes. I didn’t ever “miss” having them then. I now own a 70 hp tractor with 2 remotes....don’t think I could go back to having no remotes again. As was prebously mentioned, having a hydraulic top link is really handy. I have my CAT2 quick attach set up with hydraulic top link...really easy to hook up and go as well as change the angle of any implement (like my seeder) as needed. Also agree that the bigger the tractor the more remotes are a must have. Thinking back on my 38 hp, I would have only used the rear remote for a hydraulic top link...but I didn’t have a quick attach back then so it wasn’t as necessary.

 

[yoderjac]

Looking at smaller tractors... I see some have multiple hookups, some have 1, and some have no hydrolics but only the 3 pt and PTO.

Whats your opinion on this and how important is a rear hookup to you? What do you use it for? How expensive/difficult is it to add later?

Thanks

I find it best to work backwards. First figure out what kind of work you will be doing. If you are planning on minimizing tillage like I am, you will be using different implements than if you plan to do traditional tillage. Once you know what technique you plan to use, figure out what implements you need. That will drive your tractor requirements. This approach is ideal, but it is not what I did. I ended up learning as I went and bought equipment like a 2-bottom plow that now just sits and rusts. It is much more cost effective to define your methods and tasks for the tractor first. This approach will help spec your tractor.

Now specifically to rear hydraulic remotes. My tractor is a Kioti DK45 4x4 with FEL and a cab. (I would not buy another and hope to upgrade soon). It has one set of hydraulic remotes on the back. They are invaluable to me. I bought a hydraulic toplink and use it for lots of implements: http://www.habitat-talk.com/index.php?threads/hydraluic-toplink-transfered-from-qdma-forum.5539/

In the future, when I buy a new tractor, it will have two sets of rear remotes. Why? I purchased some retirement land that has a large field that was in pasture. I need to keep it mowed, and with a larger tractor, I can use a tow-behind batwing bushhog. One set of remotes will be use to lower the transport wheels and the other to lift the wing. Most 3-point implements don't require rear remotes, but a lot of tow-behind equipment does. No-till drills may be lifted and lowered hydraulically. Discs may have transport wheels. They make 3-point rearblades that can be angled hydraulically.

So, once you know what implements you plan to buy and use in the future, you can determine how many remotes you need and what kind of controls you need on them. Personally, I've benefited so much from the hydraulic toplink that I one set would be a minimum. It has been one of my biggest bang-for-the-buck equipment purchases.

Thanks,

Jack

 

[SWIFFY]

Thanks for the replies so far guys!

It sounds like its worth having one simply for raising and lowering tow behind implements. But as said earlier, I could always have one put on if needed, correct? 2 remote just mean the ability to operate multiple moving parts of the attachment?

Yoder I completely understand what you are saying about working backwards. However I feel when it comes to habitat farming and owning equipment its kind of one of those things thats hard to know until youve "been there and done that". Im surrounded by lifelong neighbors and friends who are farmers... none farm for wildlife. None even own tractors under 70 hp or if they do they are for little gardens. Most of what i know has come from trial and error and from the great minds on here. I imagine, and hope, the day will come when i have a great tractor with all the goodies to go with it, and I imagine ill look back an think of how i shouldve done it years ago and got this instead of that... but that just seems to be part of the process?! Again I really appreciate the input to toss in the knowledge bank!

 

[yoderjac]

Thanks for the replies so far guys!

It sounds like its worth having one simply for raising and lowering tow behind implements. But as said earlier, I could always have one put on if needed, correct? 2 remote just mean the ability to operate multiple moving parts of the attachment?

Yoder I completely understand what you are saying about working backwards. However I feel when it comes to habitat farming and owning equipment its kind of one of those things thats hard to know until youve "been there and done that". Im surrounded by lifelong neighbors and friends who are farmers... none farm for wildlife. None even own tractors under 70 hp or if they do they are for little gardens. Most of what i know has come from trial and error and from the great minds on here. I imagine, and hope, the day will come when i have a great tractor with all the goodies to go with it, and I imagine ill look back an think of how i shouldve done it years ago and got this instead of that... but that just seems to be part of the process?! Again I really appreciate the input to toss in the knowledge bank!

Yes, I agree, it is hard to do because most of us are learning as we go. When I started, the internet was just getting started, so the number of folks I could learn from was limited. I'm just suggesting thinking through your big picture approach first could help.

Remotes come in sets. You will have two connections for each thing you are operating. How many remotes you can have, and whether you can add more depends on the tractor model. Some can have remotes added later but that can be more expensive. The pump needs to be sized based on use and that can be limiting for some tractors. Some tractors will support one set of remotes and others up to 3 sets (that I've seen, perhaps more).

Thanks,

Jack