Give them a call and let them know. I have done the same, and they do appreciate knowing they have support and access to photos if the need arises. I try to capture every vehicle that comes to the end of the county road. If anything illegal occurs, there is a good chance I have pictures of the suspects. My neighbors are appreciative of my efforts, because it is a lot of effort that benefits everyone but the dirtbag.
Possible Poaching
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Wind Gypsy
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Agreed. In my experience, it is not difficult to find out which wardens cover an area and then get them on the phone. They have been happy to hear from someone wanting to help when i've called.
Also just had a thought @West_Fork - Is there not public land in your part of the world that would be easier to poach on with trespassing conflict or do the bulk of animals take refuge on the private? I know in states like MT where there is uncapped OTC tags everything gets pushed of public to large private ranches due to the huge difference in pressure but I know in many areas of UT its not so easy to get tags.
Yes, lot's of public land in Utah and Nevada. The problem is the particular hunting units I am in are mostly private with small areas of public that are very crowded during the hunts. In fact, the elk on my place were intended to enhance a national park, but have not stepped foot on that park since they were introduced in the 1950s. They reside strictly on private land. I think some folks understand that if they go to private in the off season they are less likely to encounter others than if they were out on public. Very little chance of encountering LE in private areas, and you would be surprised out how hard it is to hide in several millions acres of wide open public.
Not all private is the same, some folks have no water, poor habitat, bad management, lots of people and that does concentrate the animals on certain parcels. I think some folks are intent on righting this injustice, and feel entitled to break laws to get "their elk." A lot of these folks feel it is their "right" to hunt wherever they want. I had one guy tell a judge he "does not care about no trespassing signs, I hunt where I want." Pretty ballsy statement, and it came back to haunt him last year.
For example, this guy is on a public road, surrounded by private, not his land and he has no problem telling the world he poached a deer. Gets called out on it and end of discussion.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Curious how you know it was private on both sides and he didn't have permission?
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
The intitlement gene runs strong in some. These guys were hunting near us for about a week. When I texted the neighbor to ask if his hunters wanted to see any of my trailcam pics and whatnot the reply I got was "absolutely no-one has permission to be on that place". Turns out they drove the company truck down to KS and just started hunting wherever they felt like. No permissions, no asking, no nothing.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Did the Massholes get busted?
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
No. I told the landowner I'd go take care of it after work, but he beat me to it. When I got there he had parked behind them blocking them in, then walked the place until he found them. Said he gave them an a$$ chewing and they won't be back. Which is great, but I figure if they don't get ticked as heavily as possible that they'll just go somewhere else. Entitlement, lack of respect, cheating, etc. Just low-lifes plain and simple. I don't understand how people are like that.
I have driven that road hundreds of times and I know exactly where his place is. He aint even close to his place, and admits it.
Yes, they are that dumb.
I had a run in with that guy at my gate a couple years ago. He wanted access so he could look for his missing hobby cows. I doubt he will ever try talking to me again. Oh how I wish I would have recorded that conversation, you guys would have got a real kick out of it
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PatinPA
5 year old buck +
My dad and I had permission to hunt his neighbor's property years ago. The guy let anyone hunt that asked. My dad walked back to his rifle stand one day and there was a brand new homemade deer stand nailed into a tree. Asked the neighbor who put that stand up and he said nobody asked me to hunt there. He waited until the first day of rifle and walked in at daylight and chewed that guy out. Building a permanent stand on someone else's property without permission is wild to me.
I found an old one this fall that I never knew about. Another great place for a camera.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
What forum was that screenshot from? Monster muleys?
Cat, That is crazy that insurance denied you.They really can't do that.I just filed a claim against neighbor that burned me out for the second time in a year and his insurance at first told me that the one that started the fire had to file a claim.They changed that after a day and sent an adjuster.Other option if they don't want to give you their insurance is to contact your insurance and they will get the info off a police report that should have been filed and sue the other company for it. I was in a commission meeting one day and there was a lady there that got sprayed by probably the same huge famous ranch owners as you did. I just hope she finally sued them. I was having stolen property dumped at my farm and trespassers until I officially got all the roads going through the farm closed.
Derek Reese 29
5 year old buck +
We had a guy sit in one of our ladder stands. My dad walked down to hunt the stand a little late one morning and saw orange up in it so he pretty much ran down the hill as the guy was trying hurriedly to get down and out…it wouldn’t have gone well as the dude had a fake leg and my dad was an All American wrestler (and still walks miles a week and is in pretty good shape)…guy got shown the property line and told not to return..my dad was actually pretty nice about it I think I may not have been…
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
Dang, sounds like you have your own things to deal with. Insurance didn't want to pay. Took 3yrs to get it resolved. We had a slam dunk as I video'd them spraying and documented the trees dieing on a weekly basis. They didn't want to go to court, but they also didn't want it to be easy. If they can get someone to give up they're money ahead.
PatinPA
5 year old buck +
We have a family camp in Potter Co. and my cousins bolt pieces of plywood over the ladders while they're gone because people just think they should be able to hunt it while they're not there.
