Neighbor situation. (What to do)

[BenA]

If I couldn't hunt within 300 yards of a dwelling on my 50 acres, I would have maybe 5 acres to hunt on.

I was off a little. I would have about 8 acres to legally hunt on my 50 acres. I hope that law doesn't come here. Some years, we never rifle hunt. We've only killed 2 deer with rifles off of here, but would hate being told I can't shoot a rifle on my land safely.

 

[Bill Loser]

I disagree. Why is it always on the responsible party to be the bigger man. Why isn’t this guy supposed to do the right and legal thing but pine is supposed to roll over and take it so he doesn’t causes drama. That’s pandering to the wrong party. And it’s not about the big buck. It’s about preserving what he has worked so hard for. I’m sure if the guy had 30 acres next to him and shot a big deer in the middle of the property pine would be like oh well what can you do.
I’m so sick of people telling others to just let things be when there’s clearly a right and wrong in most of the scenarios.
What if the rolls were reversed and pine was the one hunting a postage stamp next to houses on the line. Would yall just be like oh man life’s short buddy you do you and do worry about your neighbor who did all the work and better yet the law?

While I agree what he's doing isn't legal the way it was stated here. I have to ask, what drama? What is the perp doing that affects anyone but the landowners which aren't you. Imo, mind your business and let the landowners deal with it if they decide to. Seems like (admittedly I'm assuming here) the only real worry is that the perp might kill a big deer? If the only issue is truly the guy is hunting within 300 yards of a dwelling then I'd say so what.

 

[Turkish]

Ok guys, I hate to be another one on here posting about neighbors but having a hard time coming to terms with it. All the properties around us are 30 acres+ except for 3 small -5 acre parcels between us and every one else. I met the guy two doors down this summer when I borrowed a planter from pheasants forever, he wanted to use it for another one of his property’s he hunts and picked it up when I was done.

He seemed nice enough, I told him I was glad to meet him and then he asked me if I was planning on doing much hunting. I could tell he was beating around the bush and I kind of sandbagged about it. He then told me that he sits on the fence line of his property during gun season, but never sees much. I kind of figured that wasn’t true, but also with the lack of deer in the past, that’s bringing me to a situation in real time. He’s running a trail camera in his backyard and getting pictures of big deer because they travel from the other big properties to mine. We’ve never spoken since that day until tonight. He texted me and asked me if I’ve seen the big buck that he’s hoping to get and if not he hopes I do. The problem is, he does not have permission to shoot out into the field that he’s sitting on. Also, the biggest kicker, he is not legal distance of neighboring houses as that has to be 300 yards for firearm, he’s 140 to 150 from both of his neighbors physical houses and 50yds to both property lines if I drop a pin on either side of his property to his neighbor’s houses.

Here’s the point, I’m not trying to be a dick and the Christian part of me really wants to love my neighbor, but after asking around, I hear this guy is kind of one of these braggy type hunters in the local community. What do I do? Send an anonymous tip and let the DNR handle it or confront him myself and then cause a dispute with a neighbor and live with that for who knows how many years. I just came from a situation like that with our last property except there was about 30 houses/people that hated me. I hate having that relationship as a neighbor. But the truth is, he has no right doing what he’s doing and he knows exactly what he’s doing. All advice appreciated!

If he’s breaking the law, make sure he knows it. If not, you have no reason to be angry. Frustrated? Yes. But at the circumstances, not the neighbor.

I do have a problem with larger landowners begrudging smaller landowners from hunting.

If your “ownership” of the local deer herd is a motivation (and I’m not saying it is), then I don’t really have much sympathy. 99% of hunters could find themselves on both sides of that debate simultaneously.

 

[H20fwler]

I don't like property line sitters at all, especially if their stands face off the property they are on. No doubt at all they plan on breaking trespassing laws and shooting onto their neighbor’s ground. I see this when someone has a very small property to hunt on.

I can cut them a little break if they at least have their stand facing into the property they have permission for.

 

[Mortenson]

There's been some pretty good property line threads here. They can get heated.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

If he’s breaking the law, make sure he knows it. If not, you have no reason to be angry. Frustrated? Yes. But at the circumstances, not the neighbor.

I do have a problem with larger landowners begrudging smaller landowners from hunting.

If your “ownership” of the local deer herd is a motivation (and I’m not saying it is), then I don’t really have much sympathy. 99% of hunters could find themselves on both sides of that debate simultaneously.

I’m not begrudging, 4 acres is not hunting land, period. It’s 50yds wide. You’d be lucky to keep a rabbit on the property if not for a clean shot. What I’m saying is 4 acres budding up to 400 that no other landowner in the area has permission to shoot on but for some reason this guy does is a little fishy. And doesn’t know any of his neighbors. The sole purpose of this was to say this guy is shooting/hunting on property he has no permission on. I confronted him and he claims he has permission to “use it”.
The truth will come out. Neighboring landowners who invest everything they have for true hunting land shouldn’t have to lose to someone like that who has nothing invested and taking everyone else’s sweat equity.

I’m 34 with a family two young kids. My father died 20 years ago to addiction. I’ve claimed no fortune. I started from nothing. I’ve inherited nothing. I began swinging a hammer for my uncle in 2005. I started a business 10 years ago on my own. I worked my ass in the ground as an entrepreneur/carpenter to buy some land to raise a family on and I’ll be damned if someone rolling around drinking Busch light in their backyard while mowing the grass in their pristine yard, thinks it’s ok to shoot deer across the fence because it’s ok and no one has ever said anything. That’s the point. You guys getting offended have not worked hard enough. I have sacrificed everything to be here. What’s fair is fair. You break moral code and the law, you’ll get what’s coming.


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[hunts_with_stick]

Man, this guy has every right to hunt on his property as much as you do yours. You are mad because you are afraid he will shoot “your” deer? You are right, not very Christian like. If you truly trust the Lord, he will take care of you. It is in God’s hand, leave it there. So you really know this guy’s situation? Maybe he needs it as much as you do. I was going to sty out of this, but your last post showed just how angry you are and that’s not healthy. Say a prayer and let it go.

 

[hunts_with_stick]

But I trust in You, LORD; I say, You are my God - My life is in Your hands" Psalm 31:14-15 Surrender yourself into the hands of Jesus, trust in Him, and know His love. Together you can get through anything!

 

[BenA]

Are you sure he is hunting the bigger piece of property without permission? If not, I'd start by finding that out. If it turns out, he is in fact, trespassing, I'd let the landowner he's trespassing on decide how to handle that.

 

[Bill Loser]

Are you sure he is hunting the bigger piece of property without permission? If not, I'd start by finding that out. If it turns out, he is in fact, trespassing, I'd let the landowner he's trespassing on decide how to handle that.

Why? Neither parcel is your land, none of your business.

 

[H20fwler]

I’m not begrudging, 4 acres is not hunting land, period. It’s 50yds wide. You’d be lucky to keep a rabbit on the property if not for a clean shot. What I’m saying is 4 acres budding up to 400 that no other landowner in the area has permission to shoot on but for some reason this guy does is a little fishy. And doesn’t know any of his neighbors. The sole purpose of this was to say this guy is shooting/hunting on property he has no permission on. I confronted him and he claims he has permission to “use it”.
The truth will come out. Neighboring landowners who invest everything they have for true hunting land shouldn’t have to lose to someone like that who has nothing invested and taking everyone else’s sweat equity.

I’m 34 with a family two young kids. My father died 20 years ago to addiction. I’ve claimed no fortune. I started from nothing. I’ve inherited nothing. I began swinging a hammer for my uncle in 2005. I started a business 10 years ago on my own. I worked my ass in the ground as an entrepreneur/carpenter to buy some land to raise a family on and I’ll be damned if someone rolling around drinking Busch light in their backyard while mowing the grass in their pristine yard, thinks it’s ok to shoot deer across the fence because it’s ok and no one has ever said anything. That’s the point. You guys getting offended have not worked hard enough. I have sacrificed everything to be here. What’s fair is fair. You break moral code and the law, you’ll get what’s coming.


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I went through same as you. Lost my mother when I was young and father when I was thirty. Stepmother sold off everything, so I started knocking on doors to beg permission to hunt...sooner or later someone in the landowner's family wanted to start hunting or a good friend of the family or place would sell, or someone would lease the spots out from under me.
So having not inherited anything or marrying into it or being wealthy, I started scrimping and saving, quit buying new vehicles when they hit 100K miles, stopped spending on things I didn't really need and saved like a miser while putting three kids through college. After around ten years I had enough to start looking for a hunting property and was lucky enough to stumble into a sweet little place...a year later another larger one.
Spent years planting stuff and doing everything I could to turn the properties into something great for all wildlife that my grandkids and their grandkids can hunt someday.

So, I totally get what you are saying when some guy is literally hunting out of his back yard on a fenceline shooting onto someone else's property pisses you off. This guy knows exactly what he is doing is shady, and screws over neighbors that have spent time and money to have nice places to hunt.

 

[BenA]

Why? Neither parcel is your land, none of your business.

Because I would be grateful to my neighbor if they let me know someone was trespassing on my land if I wasn't aware of it.

 

[Bill Loser]

So ask the neighbor then let it go. All this hand wringing over deer is crazy. More deer are born every year, they aren't sacred

 

[tooln]

That's tough & I hope you come to a solution. If he's got 4 and using the 400 that no one else can use. I'd be talking to the 400 owner to see if he really has permission. If he doesn't then its his job to handle it. Maybe a way to start the talk with the 400 owner is to ask permission and if he turns you down then fill him in on the 4 owner. Good luck

 

[Mortenson]

More deer are born every year, they aren't sacred

Some areas are getting pretty cleaned out. Going to take restraint and luck.

 

[KY wild]

What not to do! Your small lot neighbor shoots a large buck over the fence in the farmers field. You are out of your mind pissed so you call the game warden and they confiscate the deer for poaching. In that case everyone loses. You lose because buck is dead, neighbor loses because they took his buck. So if you would report it if he kills then act now before the kill because after the kill will be too late. If they take that dead deer you will have a lifetime enemy who is your neighbor. So you decide live with the possibilities or raise hell now

 

[Ben.MN/WI]

Did you call the large landowner to find out if he has permission to be there?

If he is breaking the law, hopefully you can get that to stop.

If he isn’t breaking the law, then you’ll have to just learn to live with it.