SE Michigan here, surprisingly found one apple on a tree yesterday that I grafted over to Zestar! in 2012. Surprising because I thought the bluejays and woodpeckers got all of them off the tree. It was perfectly ripe. What a twang! And an interesting candy apple taste, they sure are good! If I get a good bloom next year I may experiment with bird netting on this 25 foot tree - I think they are worth it.