Milo seed market?
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jsasker007
5 year old buck +
It's a good support for anything like beans and peas to climb also.
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
I think that is what he is advocating in the video. Double and triple cropping in the North Country to get the "corn and beans results like in Iowa".
I wonder if you would get Milo to grow if drilled into my clover. <----anyone do this?
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
I don't have a drill so I can't speak about drilling into clover. But I do like to grow clover and milo together, then mow strips into the milo so the clover is easy to get to. Also like to broadcast cereals into it in the fall.
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
Yes. I typically get decent heads but they only last a week once they decide to eat them. After that milo is just cover for my plots. I like to combine milo, sunflowers, and millet for grain production. Seems to give them something to eat for a lot of the summer and early fall.
I'm going all in on trying to make seed this yr; going with good seed (usually just use whole milo... feed), better spacing, and I plan to fertilize. Would love to make some huge heads and possibly have some ripen for the quail.
I'm going to try to accomplish blocks of soybeans with strips of milo breaking them up. Should be good for all sorts of critters if I can accomplish that.
davidhelmly
5 year old buck +
I haven’t tried it but I’ve thought about trying it.
Brokenbear
5 year old buck +
Folks you never stop learning in this habitat game we play ..not an expert by any means but I do have some "earned lessons" that at the very least might get you thinking and do a bit more research as we still have time to do that research ..
1. You need to define EACH parameter of your Sorghum/milo's mission to really get effective result ..
2. Tannin content, maturity length, stalk standability, height and seed vs silage( do you want seed heads or plant mass?)
3. If you want random plants throughout for vine support but not really looking for as much seed contribution then a silage Sorghum might be you
4. If you want a seed source for later in the fall winter you will want a high Tannin variety with standability (deer won't eat high Tannin milo until winter hungry)
5. Color does not determine Tannin content but a lot of USA developed Sorghum/milo seed has had a lot of the Tannin genetically bread out of it
6. There is Sorghum/milo seed that IS TREATED to allow PRE-EMERGENT Bicep or Dual applications for those of you with grass and broad-leaf problems
7. If you want the Sorghum to be an early fall food source there are Sorghum seeds available that are zero Tannin and the deer and birds will strip them by October ..which is not a bad plan IF you have other forages within the area to continue the deer's feeding pattern
We use Milo not as vine support but as late fall/winter emergency food source as well as a means to "break up" more open clover fields by planting it in strips much like a farmer would plant a regular row crop of milo except we have curves n boundaries with open places scattered through out..
We archery hunt it as well as gun so we limit our variety of seed to 45" stated plant height shooting from 10' elevation
The deer seem to be much more comfortable with the "feel" that the 8' and 16' row wide "Milo break ups" offers them .. they even bed in the stuff
Good Luck all this season and be safe out there
Bear
1. You need to define EACH parameter of your Sorghum/milo's mission to really get effective result ..
2. Tannin content, maturity length, stalk standability, height and seed vs silage( do you want seed heads or plant mass?)
3. If you want random plants throughout for vine support but not really looking for as much seed contribution then a silage Sorghum might be you
4. If you want a seed source for later in the fall winter you will want a high Tannin variety with standability (deer won't eat high Tannin milo until winter hungry)
5. Color does not determine Tannin content but a lot of USA developed Sorghum/milo seed has had a lot of the Tannin genetically bread out of it
6. There is Sorghum/milo seed that IS TREATED to allow PRE-EMERGENT Bicep or Dual applications for those of you with grass and broad-leaf problems
7. If you want the Sorghum to be an early fall food source there are Sorghum seeds available that are zero Tannin and the deer and birds will strip them by October ..which is not a bad plan IF you have other forages within the area to continue the deer's feeding pattern
We use Milo not as vine support but as late fall/winter emergency food source as well as a means to "break up" more open clover fields by planting it in strips much like a farmer would plant a regular row crop of milo except we have curves n boundaries with open places scattered through out..
We archery hunt it as well as gun so we limit our variety of seed to 45" stated plant height shooting from 10' elevation
The deer seem to be much more comfortable with the "feel" that the 8' and 16' row wide "Milo break ups" offers them .. they even bed in the stuff
Good Luck all this season and be safe out there
Bear
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
A few years ago, we broadcast-seeded some WGF milo (grows about 3' tall) randomly into a spring-seeded plot with other crop seed. They popped up wherever in the plot. We noticed deer seemed to be more comfortable in that plot with a bit more cover the milo supplied. FWIW.
I'd like to try the mowed-strips pattern for all the reasons you pointed out.
Anyone ever double crop Milo and Soybeans? I want to take a shot at it this year with my no-till drill. I'm trying to figure out if I should mix the Milo and soybeans together and plant on 7.5" rows or should I keep them separate and plant alternating rows.
I also plan to come back in around Labor day and over seed everything with Rye mix.
I also plan to come back in around Labor day and over seed everything with Rye mix.
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
I'd be inclined to plant the milo in 2 rows 15 inches apart, then 3 rows of beans on 7.5.
Stubborn1VT
5 year old buck +
I have some experience farming. I would suggest alternating rows due to very different seed size. I would also say that 15" rows would give you a better yield. Just my couple pennies worth.
What variety of milo do you plant - sounds like what I might need
Northwoods Whitetails
A good 3 year old buck
Our Milo is 16,000 seeds per pound. Recommended rate is 60,000 seeds per acre.
This is not marked up WGF sorghum, this is a hybrid Milo. They are sending us nutrition tests results but this was the highest protein content they tested.
But thanks for looking at it.
We highly recommend multi crops with milo. We did sugarbeets , winter peas , milo combo at planting
Dual II magnum for pre emergent
Rutabaga overseed in july
Rye on Sept 10-14
This is not marked up WGF sorghum, this is a hybrid Milo. They are sending us nutrition tests results but this was the highest protein content they tested.
But thanks for looking at it.
We highly recommend multi crops with milo. We did sugarbeets , winter peas , milo combo at planting
Dual II magnum for pre emergent
Rutabaga overseed in july
Rye on Sept 10-14
Spike_Horn_Shooter
5 year old buck +
Hey John. Cool to see you on here.
My plan for this year with the Milo:
I have two one acre plots on the east and west side of a shooting shack. Northern NY, heavy clay ground / wetter until late spring.
Last year was Eagle AG beans, with brassica broadcast in rows on the west plot in July and both plots got 75 lbs/acre WW and WR broadcast in two separate occasions in late Sep/early OCT.
I came through in late Mar and broadcast 15-20 lbs /acre of red clover.
I ordered 4 bags of Northwoods Milo and 1 bag of covery rise from PF. Going to plant each plot in 1/2 covey rise and 1/2 Northwoods. Going to make observations on the preferred Milo.
Both plots will get light dose of roundup at planting and 1 plot will get Dual 2. I want to see how much of my clover can survive with and hopefully dwell within the Milo during summer and pop back again in the fall. Also curious on how much weed suppression I’ll get from the dead WW and WR. Both plots will get P and K to soil test and about 200 lbs urea and 100lbs treated urea at planting and maybe a top dress if plants yellow. I’m assuming I’ll have nitrogen tie up due to dead/dying WW/WR.
I have a min till drill, and it doesn’t plant corn that great, but does fine on smaller stuff. I’m hopeful the Milo provides some cover because deer don’t dwell in the plots and they are open field locations and can be seen from the road. I like the idea of the lanes mowed in the Milo for either brassicas or clover.
My plan for this year with the Milo:
I have two one acre plots on the east and west side of a shooting shack. Northern NY, heavy clay ground / wetter until late spring.
Last year was Eagle AG beans, with brassica broadcast in rows on the west plot in July and both plots got 75 lbs/acre WW and WR broadcast in two separate occasions in late Sep/early OCT.
I came through in late Mar and broadcast 15-20 lbs /acre of red clover.
I ordered 4 bags of Northwoods Milo and 1 bag of covery rise from PF. Going to plant each plot in 1/2 covey rise and 1/2 Northwoods. Going to make observations on the preferred Milo.
Both plots will get light dose of roundup at planting and 1 plot will get Dual 2. I want to see how much of my clover can survive with and hopefully dwell within the Milo during summer and pop back again in the fall. Also curious on how much weed suppression I’ll get from the dead WW and WR. Both plots will get P and K to soil test and about 200 lbs urea and 100lbs treated urea at planting and maybe a top dress if plants yellow. I’m assuming I’ll have nitrogen tie up due to dead/dying WW/WR.
I have a min till drill, and it doesn’t plant corn that great, but does fine on smaller stuff. I’m hopeful the Milo provides some cover because deer don’t dwell in the plots and they are open field locations and can be seen from the road. I like the idea of the lanes mowed in the Milo for either brassicas or clover.
