Guess the score on these two

Two more pics of them.
 

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1st one 150's and probably even bigger than he looks due to that giant head. 2nd one mid 130's maybe up to 140? Again, looks like a bruiser buck. What do you think?
 
I know the score of both because they are both dead. Good example of how mass really tricks you scoring pictures of deer. If I told you the g3s on the shorter tined buck were 1 1/4 inches shorter than the long tined deer you would call me a liar.lol.
 
I'm interested to hear the scores. How would you score the massy one in my thread a few below?
 
160....145....

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160 is probably what he was in the picture but he broke a little tip off his brow and came in at 159 7/8 lol. The other one came in at 156. I never thought I had a picture of the deer until after I shot him because I just quickly skipped over the pictures of him not thinking he was anything.
 
Those are great bucks. I was close on the tall 1 but way off on the heavy 1! He does look a lot more impressive in the 2nd pic you posted.
 
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