Gonna try crossbow hunting this year

Saw a guy showing that the Ravin nocks are too damn tight and he showed having the arrow nocked on the string and turning the arrow in a circle maybe 5 or 6 complete turns and the nock wasn't as snug anymore. Otherwise it sounds like people are using a pliers or their teeth. Puller looks like a must have and the price is more than fair. Plus it's orange so I'll have a much harder time losing it when I set it somewhere and wander off.
 
Making a couple of bag target stands so the targets can "give" a little more and won't tip over. I have a couple of yellow jacket targets that are in great shape. The most accurate compound bow for me was the first bow I ever bought. It was an old Golden Eagle splitfire 1 and I had the most robin hoods with that bow. Was also the longest axle to axle bow that I've owned. The thing was a 70 lb draw but sure felt like 80 or more because of the ungodly harsh cams. Can't wait to get shooting good groups with the new rig. Just have to wait......
 
Making a couple of bag target stands so the targets can "give" a little more and won't tip over. I have a couple of yellow jacket targets that are in great shape. The most accurate compound bow for me was the first bow I ever bought. It was an old Golden Eagle splitfire 1 and I had the most robin hoods with that bow. Was also the longest axle to axle bow that I've owned. The thing was a 70 lb draw but sure felt like 80 or more because of the ungodly harsh cams. Can't wait to get shooting good groups with the new rig. Just have to wait......
Once you get your Ravin sighted i - when shooting off a rest, I would not shoot at the same dot with consecutive bolts. Shoot at different dots or you will be replacing fletching, knocks, and bolts.

With a lighted knock, a rage bh, and ravin shaft, you are shooting about $80 everytime you send one down range. I dont shoot coons, hogs, etc with my crossbow - unless the hog is sure enough a big one
 
I bought a used Excalibur recently. This will be my first season with it. I'm looking forward to it, but I'm not used to getting very close to deer. Should be fun.
 
With a lighted knock, a rage bh, and ravin shaft, you are shooting about $80 everytime you send one down range.
In my youth I bought whatever arrow the local big box sporting goods store had laying around and some heads I got mail order.

In my 30's I at least started buying the right arrows and semi decent heads.

The last trip around, two years ago, I totally geeked out. Wasted thousands of dollars over the course of the summer trying different brands, different spines. Plus all new jigs and tools and testers. Testing, squaring, knock tuning. Spent months testing all sorts of different fletching, different angles of helical, 3, 4, 6 vane fletching in a multitude of styles and lengths. Crazy minutia like adding weight to my knocks so they'd be the exact weight as the lighted knocks. Played with all different arrow weights that would invariably send me back to square one. 15 to 150grain inserts, 100-300 grain heads. Then buying and trying several brand of higher end broadheads. Always stupid about it, buying them, then buying a jig to sharpen them, then deciding I didn't like them or wanted to try something else. Heck I probably spent close to a grand alone on that. (this is why I'm poor)

But that's where I ended up though.... "Oh my goodness, this arrow is almost $100! I better bring a junker with me for targets of opportunity." Of course since I had lots of leftovers, that wasn't a problem.

With the new crossbow, I won't have time to do any of that stuff, which is probably a good thing. 😆


Crazy the money I spent/wasted on the bow, especially if I can't shoot it anymore. I went nuts, but I was having fun. The irony being I bought a "cheap" bow BECAUSE I wasn't sure I was going to be able to shoot it. Then I spent ten times as much on everything else. Pissed away piles of money. The arrow experiments, a few different sights, a few different releases. That hit me one day sitting in the tree stand... "This release cost more than any bow I ever owned." (prior to the one I was using) 🙄
 
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In my youth I bought whatever arrow the local big box sporting goods store had laying around and some heads I got mail order.

In my 30's I at least started buying the right arrows and semi decent heads.

The last trip around, two years ago, I totally geeked out. Wasted thousands of dollars over the course of the summer trying different brands, different spines. Plus all new jigs and tools and testers. Testing, squaring, knock tuning. Spent months testing all sorts of different fletching, different angles of helical, 3, 4, 6 vane fletching in a multitude of styles and lengths. Crazy minutia like adding weight to my knocks so they'd be the exact weight as the lighted knocks. Played with all different arrow weights that would invariably send me back to square one. 15 to 150grain inserts, 100-300 grain heads. Then buying and trying several brand of higher end broadheads. Always stupid about it, buying them, then buying a jig to sharpen them, then deciding I didn't like them or wanted to try something else. Heck I probably spent close to a grand alone on that. (this is why I'm poor)

But that's where I ended up though.... "Oh my goodness, this arrow is almost $100! I better bring a junker with me for targets of opportunity." Of course since I had lots of leftovers, that wasn't a problem.

With the new crossbow, I won't have time to do any of that stuff, which is probably a good thing. 😆


Crazy the money I spent/wasted on the bow, especially if I can't shoot it anymore. I went nuts, but I was having fun. The irony being I bought a "cheap" bow BECAUSE I wasn't sure I was going to be able to shoot it. Then I spent ten times as much on everything else. Pissed away piles of money. The arrow experiments, a few different sights, a few different releases. That hit me one day sitting in the tree stand... "This release cost more than any bow I ever owned." (prior to the one I was using) 🙄
I spent one year testing arrows and broadheads on game. I have all kinds of pigs to shoot at. Was going on an elk bowhunt the next year and wanted to have the right setup. I shot at least four pigs with 8 different broadheads and shot about four different weight arrows. Shot six deer. I didnt find out anything earth shattering. For deer, a lighter, faster arrow with an expandable bh was more lethal and provided an easier to track animal. But, I surmised from penetration tests on big old boar hogs, a heavier arrow with COC Bh wood be better on elk. I ended up shooting a walking elk, liver back - did not get the coc broadside out the offside. Not a great blood trail, and lost him. I ended up wishing I had shot him with a faster arrow and expandable head. Every shot is different.
 
The limbs are squeezed in when you cock the crossbow. They widen out when you shoot. Make sure you got some distance between the limbs and your stand, your stuff, the tree, a second person on the stand. Opening day play around with it some and watch your shots and how clsoe you are to stuff. Kind of pain to work on field edges where you shoot far left / right often. Shooting rests get in the way often too.
 
The limbs are squeezed in when you cock the crossbow. They widen out when you shoot. Make sure you got some distance between the limbs and your stand, your stuff, the tree, a second person on the stand. Opening day play around with it some and watch your shots and how clsoe you are to stuff. Kind of pain to work on field edges where you shoot far left / right often. Shooting rests get in the way often too.

That problem is one of the reasons I bought a saddle.
 
I spent one year testing arrows and broadheads on game. I have all kinds of pigs to shoot at. Was going on an elk bowhunt the next year and wanted to have the right setup. I shot at least four pigs with 8 different broadheads and shot about four different weight arrows. Shot six deer. I didnt find out anything earth shattering. For deer, a lighter, faster arrow with an expandable bh was more lethal and provided an easier to track animal. But, I surmised from penetration tests on big old boar hogs, a heavier arrow with COC Bh wood be better on elk. I ended up shooting a walking elk, liver back - did not get the coc broadside out the offside. Not a great blood trail, and lost him. I ended up wishing I had shot him with a faster arrow and expandable head. Every shot is different.
Colorblind, I can't see blood in the woods if it's not on snow, and even then I often can't tell blood drops from mud drops.
I went real heavy with strong fixed blades hoping to break stuff.
 
Colorblind, I can't see blood in the woods if it's not on snow, and even then I often can't tell blood drops from mud drops.
I went real heavy with strong fixed blades hoping to break stuff.
To me it is kind of like duck hunting with an improved cylinder over decoys and nothing comes within 40 yards and you wish you had brought your full choke. Our deer are smaller framed - a huge buck here is 200 lbs on the hoof and most a lot smaller. Even with a medium wt setup, I shoot through everything - shoulder or not - even with an expandable head. I feel like the faster arrow allows me to more consistently hit closer to my point of aim. Our Deer are fairly fragile compared to the hogs. Any of todays modern bows and expandable heads pretty much shoot through every deer we have - so there isnt much science to it.
 
The plot my tree stand is on is about 45 yards at it's very widest point, past that it's dense brush. (And that's at that one and only spot.) I couldn't shoot farther if I wanted to and don't intend to shoot anywhere near that far. Anything I shoot there will probably be inside 20 yards.
 
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The plot my tree stand is on is about 45 yards at it's very widest point, past that it's dense brush. (And that's at that one and only spot.) I couldn't shoot farther if I wanted to and don't intend to shoot anywhere near that far. Anything I shoot there will probably be inside 20 yards.

Cut a tree so it falls from the other side 20 yards into the plot. They will walk around it in your favor. Could use fence also. They’re as lazy as me and will walk around.
 
So the new one did show up friday and I was able to shoot it today.
I bought a Tenpoint Titan 400. Had no intention of buying this model, or one at all really, but the chance to save about $160 was all the excuse I needed.

I would say I'm pretty happy with it, yet all I have to say about it is negative things. lol You know, the scope kind of sucks, as expected. And the trigger sucks.. didn't expect it to be that bad. Though I have become a trigger snob in recent years and am drifting that way about scopes as well. Certainly is accurate enough as is. I don't need to worry about knock tuning, or trying to figure out which head weight is more accurate, I'd never be able to tell with that trigger pull.
No matter what crossbow I shoot, I'm always shocked by the noise. To make matters worse, I was shooting from under a metal carport like structure which made it really echo inside. After the second shot I put my ear plugs in. lmao

Titan 400 as in 400fps. Which apparently is achieved with some arrow that doesn't exist. 😉
The light/low GPI bolts they provide with 100gr tips did 396 with a good tailwind. I guess that's close enough. I had already bought some heavier GPI shafts and once I got the windage in I switched to those. Shot 150gr (363fps), 175gr (353fps), 200gr (346fps), 250gr (330something) and 300gr (322fps) heads. I'm trying to avoid the temptation to do what I did with my last bow, which was to go heavier and heavier because "Heck it's still going much faster than my old bow." (I got up to about 730+ grains and it was still going faster than my old bow lol) (based on these numbers, a 1000+gr arrow would still be going faster than my old crossbow shooting 100gr heads lmao)

I think I'm going to stick with the 150's though, I have a bunch of unused broadheads, assuming they shoot. The drops align nicely with hash marks in the scope out to 40 yards (even if the numbers on the hash marks don't match up. Didn't shoot it any farther, the pit I was shooting in was only so big.

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It's great that they keep some of you guys with medical issues in the field. I'm still sticking that unless medically needed they should be for gun season.
 
I know a few people who say "I don't like crossbows" and I reply "I don't either". Believe me, I'd much rather still be able to use my bow. Currently though I don't know if I could hit anything past 10 yards, and that's on flat ground on a static target. 😠
 
I cant shoot my compound for a variety of medical reasons. For some reason, with a crossbow - and maybe just my age - I dont feel the need to shoot a deer with my crossbow like I did my compound. I imagine I have killed well over 100 deer with my compound in the fifty years I hunted with it. I have killed two in the five years I have been hunting with a crossbow. There are other reasons also, like my grand kids do some of the killing now - but also we have a lot more deer now. It seems like the more deer we have - the fewer I kill. In our state, because we have fairly lengthy firearms seasons, the archery kill is still a drop in the bucket compared to the firearms kill. Something like 15% of the total harvest. Crossbow kill alone is roughly 5% of the total harvest - basically insignificant.
 
There's many facets to the arguments and I kind of agree with most of them, on both sides.
I'm also of the mind that if you're hunting on private property, it shouldn't matter what you use.
And that new "seasons" are just money making schemes by the state.
 
There's many facets to the arguments and I kind of agree with most of them, on both sides.
I'm also of the mind that if you're hunting on private property, it shouldn't matter what you use.
And that new "seasons" are just money making schemes by the state.
We have five month bow seasons - I would hate for my neighbors to be able to use a centerfire rifle for five months. I look at it like most game department’s goal is a harvest of 20 to 25% of the total deer population. As an example - they could do that by a longer firearms season alone, or a little reduction in firearms season and add in some compound, crossbow, and ml. If your goal is to harvest 20% of the statewide population, the method of harvest is immaterial.

Last year our state allowed the use of straight walled cartridges during the ml season and changed the name to alternative weapons season. The overall statewide harvest went up slightly - but the alternative weapon harvest was twice as much as past ml seasons. But the firearms season harvest dropped. The alternative weapons harvest basically robbed from the modern gun harvest.
 
Where I hunt there's 6 weeks of bow season. 3 weeks of gun. One tag per. My neighbors seem to like to do most of their recreational shooting during bow season. All day long, hundreds and hundreds of rounds. Mag dumps. lol Giving me from Oct 1 till Dec 7 to shoot my 1 deer however I like wouldn't change much.

After gun there's a couple weeks of late bow and muzzle loader. At which point it's often miserable. I've never hunted with my flintlock in the muzzleloading season, only regular gun. If there's snow, usually I can't get anywhere near the cabin at that point. The late seasons are not conducive to a good time to the traveling hunter, which a large percentage of the hunters here are.
 
I have absolutely no problem with a hunter using a crossbow where legal if that's what they choose to use. I'm sure there will come a day when I have to use one...but I've never used one. Illegal in MA unless you have a doctor's note.

Can somebody answer this for me? I am under the impression that one could take a brand new crossbow out of the box in the morning and get it on the bullseye at 40 yards on paper within an hour...and then hunt with it that night in the stand. Is that fair? Close to being accurate?
 
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