Deregulating Suppressors?

[hunts_with_stick]

Seem expensive, but if they last forever….or just about

 

[Telemark]

There can be fouling issues where the suppressor joins to the barrel.

Never store your gun with the silencer attached.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Never store your gun with the silencer attached.

Color me skeptical of that being an issue. I do keep em muzzle down though.

There can be fouling issues where the suppressor joins to the barrel. It's more common in military scenarios. Sig Sauer and the Army are looking into odd wear patterns with the new M7.

The m7 just seems like a lousy idea in general beyond specific use cases. 80k psi in a suppressed gas gun burning over 40 grains of powder. Throw a vortex smart scope on it and it would take a lot for me to trust that for an important hunt much less war. Were such issues present on mk18s or mk12s? Sounds like sig issues..

 

[Catscratch]

Never store your gun with the silencer attached.

Why?

 

[birdog]

It's not a silencer. There is no such thing

 

[Telemark]

Why?

Something about moisture moving ions between the different metals and causing pitting in the bore. Can't remember exactly. It was explained to me in Norwegian when I bought it.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

I only clean my bores every 200-500 rounds, store with cans attached, never seen any issues.

Edit after thinking about it more: I have had condensation seemingly form in the bore more when shooting suppressed in the winter so it would make sense that there could be something to it. I just don’t think it’s something that is important in many uses.

 

[bigboreblr]

The metal that can corrode easier will loose materal, while the other will be more or less not harmed. Sounds like suppressors are not steel. IF they are made of aluminum, the suppressor threads loose. If it is made out of titanium, the barrel threads loose.

Combustion byproducts are carbon dioxide and water. Need water to rust, acids from carbon dioxide and others materials just act like an accelerant for corrosion. Alot of nitrogen in gun powder, so nitric acid is probably being made too.

In aluminum outboards, they put a zinc anode on for freshwater and a pure aluminum anode for saltwater. Saltwater conducts electricity alot better.

 

[MN Slick]

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I agree. It’s coming. Lots of companies have hopped in and are bringing lots of innovation.

A short little suppressed 6.5 creed is just about a perfect deer rifle. Be sure and post pics when you get it all set up, and let me know if you have any questions about what suppressor to buy.

What suppresser do you recommend for a 350 legend. It's a Savage Trail Hunter Lite, 18" barrel. Thank You

 

[Foggy47]

The metal that can corrode easier will loose materal, while the other will be more or less not harmed. Sounds like suppressors are not steel. IF they are made of aluminum, the suppressor threads loose. If it is made out of titanium, the barrel threads loose.

Combustion byproducts are carbon dioxide and water. Need water to rust, acids from carbon dioxide and others materials just act like an accelerant for corrosion. Alot of nitrogen in gun powder, so nitric acid is probably being made too.

In aluminum outboards, they put a zinc anode on for freshwater and a pure aluminum anode for saltwater. Saltwater conducts electricity alot better.

I gotta wonder about 7075 Aluminum and a hard coat anodizing. I think that could hold up under most hunting gun situations....still providing light weight and that hard-coat "should" withstand most acids and such. Tho....zinc is what makes this alloy stronger than the 6000 alloys. Alas, I am not a metallurgist.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

What suppresser do you recommend for a 350 legend. It's a Savage Trail Hunter Lite, 18" barrel. Thank You

I don’t own a rifle larger than 30 cal so haven’t looked into that application much but I know there is AB raptors in .375 bore and otter creek labs has made runs of hydrogen cans with a larger bore that would work with 350 legend. Just based off either’s 30 cal bore performance id think they’d be good options.

@omicron1792 might even have one of those 375 raptors?

 

[omicron1792]

I don’t own a rifle larger than 30 cal so haven’t looked into that application much but I know there is AB raptors in .375 bore and otter creek labs has made runs of hydrogen cans with a larger bore that would work with 350 legend. Just based off either’s 30 cal bore performance id think they’d be good options.

@omicron1792 might even have one of those 375 raptors?

I do. I have the AB raptor 8 stack in 375. It’s a workhorse of a supressor and can be used for 375 and down with great suppression. I used it with my 375 Ruger on a bear hunt this year. I would highly recommend.

You can also use some pistol suppressors with a 350 legend but I don’t have any experience with that.

 

[RGrizzzz]

What suppresser do you recommend for a 350 legend. It's a Savage Trail Hunter Lite, 18" barrel. Thank You

Take a look at the Griffin Sportsman Ultralight HD. I have the non-HD version and I'm very happy with it. It looks like they added a .36 caliber version that would work for .350 Legend.

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor, hunting, sporting, hub compatible

griffinarmament.com

 

[roymunson]

Take a look at the Griffin Sportsman Ultralight HD. I have the non-HD version and I'm very happy with it. It looks like they added a .36 caliber version that would work for .350 Legend.

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor, hunting, sporting, hub compatible

griffinarmament.com

https://jkarmament.com/products/jk-155-versax-45cal/

This is the one i have

I bought a 22 cal end cap and swap it back and forth with my 223. But I have this guy on my 400 legend and the Banish 46 on the boys 350 legend. Not sure I prefer one over the other tho

 

[Telemark]

Take a look at the Griffin Sportsman Ultralight HD. I have the non-HD version and I'm very happy with it. It looks like they added a .36 caliber version that would work for .350 Legend.

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor, hunting, sporting, hub compatible

griffinarmament.com

That looks like a great suppressor. I'll probably get one of those.

 

[Kooch]

I’ve got a Silencerco Omega 300. It’s the only one I’ve owned. I use it in a 5.56 bolt action and like it a lot.

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[omicron1792]

Take a look at the Griffin Sportsman Ultralight HD. I have the non-HD version and I'm very happy with it. It looks like they added a .36 caliber version that would work for .350 Legend.

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor

Sportsman Ultra Light HD .36 Suppressor, hunting, sporting, hub compatible

griffinarmament.com

The 30 cal version finished right in the middle at TBAC summit testing. Not bad, not great. For the price and size pretty good.

Probably 3-4 db louder than newer 3d printed and/or titanium cans, and a little heavier. But about half the price of most of those.

https://thunderbeastarms.com/sound/summit2024/

 

[omicron1792]

Here is a consolidated list of the 24 and 25 TBAC summit results. It is kind of the gold standard of testing.

My fave metric is the SE dbA. This is a microphone at the shooters ear, with a weighted average. Shooters ear sound is the main thing that matters with a suppressor. Not the only thing, but the most important for me.

In general the longer and bigger suppressors give more sound suppression. But that’s not the end all for hunting based suppressors. So I try to find smaller and lighter suppressors that also test well. Then you have to look up reviews for things like durability. SilencerCo scythe tested well, was light and small, but reports came out about durability issues. @Wind Gypsy has some experience with this.

You can sort the lists based on the different metrics.

https://thunderbeastarms.com/sound/summit2024/

@Wind Gypsy feel free to reply on how you use this data also.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Here is a consolidated list of the 24 and 25 TBAC summit results. It is kind of the gold standard of testing.

My fave metric is the SE dbA. This is a microphone at the shooters ear, with a weighted average. Shooters ear sound is the main thing that matters with a suppressor. Not the only thing, but the most important for me.

In general the longer and bigger suppressors give more sound suppression. But that’s not the end all for hunting based suppressors. So I try to find smaller and lighter suppressors that also test well. Then you have to look up reviews for things like durability. SilencerCo scythe tested well, was light and small, but reports came out about durability issues. @Wind Gypsy has some experience with this.

You can sort the lists based on the different metrics.

https://thunderbeastarms.com/sound/summit2024/

@Wind Gypsy feel free to reply on how you use this data also.

I typically just look at SE dBa as a primary comparison too. Some things to keep in mind about the tbac summit:
1. They test different cans each year so if you’re looking for one and don’t see it, it might be in one of the other years
2. There are different conditions year to year that influences results a bit so to get apples to apples comparisons on different years I compare how the same TBAC cans performance varied in each year as a baseline.
3. Keep in mind that noise on a suppressed gas gun (AR) can be heavily influenced by port pop and back pressure influence in how loud the action is.

A couple decibels is hard to notice. I have 4 different cans that might show a few dB variance in noise but they all generally satisfy about the same functionally.

 

[RGrizzzz]

The 30 cal version finished right in the middle at TBAC summit testing. Not bad, not great. For the price and size pretty good.

Probably 3-4 db louder than newer 3d printed and/or titanium cans, and a little heavier. But about half the price of most of those.

https://thunderbeastarms.com/sound/summit2024/

It's hard to read on my phone, but it looks like none of the testing was with bolt action rifles, right?