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You guys need to stop thinking for yourselves, obey and follow along like good sheep.
 
So for you guys (like me) that are not going to get the vaccine, how deadly would something have to be to get an experimental vaccine? 10% fatality, 20%? Certainly not less that 1%.
 
It wouldn't just need to be deadlier, but I would have to be in the segment of the population that is at risk. Since I'm not over 65 and have no co-morbidities, no reason whatsoever to get it.
 
There is no reason for anyone ,no matter what age or preexisting condition to get the shot.
There is a reason they want so badly for the entire population to get it. Non stop commercials, hell they have f ing billboards for gods sake. I cant think of many reasons for the goberent to be pushing this so hard, but none of those reasons are good.
 
Comrades we must all obey the goobermint or we cant have Fourth of July. I'm predicting violent guns (not criminals) will kill far more people in Shitcago for July 4th, than corona. They will all be legal guns in the hands of thugs that were just about to turn their lives around.


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chucker66 said:
So for you guys (like me) that are not going to get the vaccine, how deadly would something have to be to get an experimental vaccine? 10% fatality, 20%? Certainly not less that 1%.
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it’s not a % thing for me. I’m not anti vax. Don’t blame anyone for getting it.
It’s just that I live in NJ. Almost ground “0”. Everyone knows someone who died of it. But not really. I don’t personally know a single person that died, that wouldn’t have soon anyway. I know lots of people who like to tell stories.

I’m mid 50’s on cholesterol meds and blood pressure meds. Recovered smoker of 30 years. I had Covid and it wasn’t any worse then a light hangover or cold. Yet they are now pushing children be vaccinated??? Why? It’s all a red flag for me.

I hate conspiracy theories but something isn’t right. Even if that something is everyone has just gone off the deep end over this. My wife thinks I’m nuts. She’s a retired MSRN and will get it. And thinks I’m nuts.

I’m just not doing it. If I die from it next year, count me as a dumb ass in the statistics. Remember last March 2 million we’re going to die in the US (if we locked down). Well we locked down. It isn’t 2 million. Not even close if we take comorbidity out of it. Sorry it’s just to climate change like for me.

no need for a vaccine, just turn off the TV and live life.
 
Bill said:
it’s not a % thing for me. I’m not anti vax. Don’t blame anyone for getting it.
It’s just that I live in NJ. Almost ground “0”. Everyone knows someone who died of it. But not really. I don’t personally know a single person that died, that wouldn’t have soon anyway. I know lots of people who like to tell stories.

I’m mid 50’s on cholesterol meds and blood pressure meds. Recovered smoker of 30 years. I had Covid and it wasn’t any worse then a light hangover or cold. Yet they are now pushing children be vaccinated??? Why? It’s all a red flag for me.

I hate conspiracy theories but something isn’t right. Even if that something is everyone has just gone off the deep end over this. My wife thinks I’m nuts. She’s a retired MSRN and will get it. And thinks I’m nuts.

I’m just not doing it. If I die from it next year, count me as a dumb ass in the statistics. Remember last March 2 million we’re going to die in the US (if we locked down). Well we locked down. It isn’t 2 million. Not even close if we take comorbidity out of it. Sorry it’s just to climate change like for me.

no need for a vaccine, just turn off the TV and live life.
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Kids I don’t get at all, they haven’t been shown to be carriers or have no real mortality if they do contract it which the risk is low. I am wondering if it is the fact we haven’t even seen the first full 100 million jandj doses out yet and already a good portion of our state is struggling to find people to administer it to.

I also don’t really understand the recommendation to get the vaccine if you have tested Covid positive in the past.


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Double Mutant?
something smells off about this.

in the words of little rascals “I double dog dare you” to get vaccinated.

NJ gov and his wife are getting vaccinated at a super vax site tomorrow. And the news says the Atlantic City super vax site had openings today and lots next week.

Why wasn’t the gov vaccinated first? Why now that enrollment is down? Wonder if he gets placebo?
 
Go figure, vax experiment participants are way down in Wi, so now the scary covid cases are going back up.. weird.....
Cant even watch the news, wall to wall vax talk with a little derek chauvin trial thrown in . I used to like watching the news in the morning
 
Locking you in your home and mass vaccination with a vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission is how you get new variants. They’ll continue to blame those who are informed when things get worse. The UK’s latest model predicted 400 deaths per day in August. Most of the deaths are predicted in completely vaccinated seniors. They know this is a failure and enhancement disease is a a real concern.
 
I don't need a TV or radio to tell me what's going on. Call me whatever you want, If it isn't happening in my area I don't give a shit. I'm not going to stress out over something I have no control over. Going back to the death rate and vaccination. We all have to die of something and the world IS over populated. If the immune system God gave me isn't up to the task the world is no longer a place I'd like to live in anyhow.
 
Haus said:
Locking you in your home and mass vaccination with a vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission is how you get new variants. They’ll continue to blame those who are informed when things get worse. The UK’s latest model predicted 400 deaths per day in August. Most of the deaths are predicted in completely vaccinated seniors. They know this is a failure and enhancement disease is a a real concern.
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I've said it many times on this forum. We have a large population of "old" and generally unhealthy people. The more people there are in the world the more deaths there are going to be plain and simple.
 
Bill Loser said:
Go figure, vax experiment participants are way down in Wi, so now the scary covid cases are going back up.. weird.....
Cant even watch the news, wall to wall vax talk with a little derek chauvin trial thrown in . I used to like watching the news in the morning
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I went from always watching the morning news, to having it on for background noise, to the tv is never on in the mornings. Even in the evening, I rarely watch anything on tv, it might be on, but I am either on my phone when it is on, or my computer.
 
So can any PRO coronahoax vaccine person come on here and tell me that this is TYPICAL reaction to vaccine. They shut down a clinic in Denver yesterday giving the J and J vaccine cause people were tipping over after being given the vaccine, and now the same in NC. AztraZenenca being stopped all over the world cause of blood clots????? The hell if your stabbing me with this shit.






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Sorry for being away. I had a long weekend at camp, epic water, and a residue problem. Got all that remedied, now back to the struggle. Been a good haul this morning. Got enough for days!

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Bill said:
Heard on the radio news.

Vaccine can cause
Skin irritation, sometimes measles like over the entire body. Itchy and scaly. Sometimes causes shingles.
(not often, harmless, shouldn’t deter you from getting it by all reports)

And now there is a very very very small chance of a phenomena called covid toe......

I’m sure all medications can cause anything in someone. I remember hearing and ad for a medication that listed anal leakage as a possible side affect so this stuff is nothing..:emoji_stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
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I remember one "new medicine" that was on a TV ad a few years ago to treat heartburn, at the end it listed the alleged "mild side effects" and one of them was "constant flatulation with occasional oily discharge" :emoji_astonished:

I think I will just stick to the Rolaids thanks!
 
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