Broadcast into RR nuked hay/clover

[bwoods11]

I just had my renter spray roundup on 1.2 acres of hay ground that was a combo of alfalfa/grass and clover. After it dies, I want to broadcast some brassicas on half, and looking for another option for the north half. Some suggestions? I am in MN.
I've had good luck broadcasting brassicas into dead grass, seems to take well.

The reason we did this is to get it ready for next year, probably a corn plot, and we had quite a few weeds and some thistle. This spot is surrounded by hundreds of acres of soybeans this year, and corn next year. Long term plan is to match the bordering crop...which usually works well.

(note--Im guessing some clover will make it as well)

 

[bwoods11]

This is aerial of the location, and I guess it is actually 1.6 acres

 

[MNAaron]

I have never broadcast brassicas into killed grass. I am thinking about trying it this year. How much extra seed to you apply? Do you cultipack it in or will a good rain suffice?

 

[bwoods11]

Cultipack would work, I try to spread before a heavy rain

I'm thinking rye??

Something with small seed

 

[sandbur]

Does it work as well with light soil?

 

[phil@thesidehill]

I have never broadcast brassicas into killed grass. I am thinking about trying it this year. How much extra seed to you apply? Do you cultipack it in or will a good rain suffice?

First time i tried this method, i went on the heavy side with the seeding rate....it ended up being a bad move...the brassicas came in WAAAYYYYY too thick. normal broadcasting rates should suffice. i plant brassicas like this all the time...highly effective way of doing it. cultipack will help...but i never bother...just let the rain do its thing. lots of the seed will germinate in the dead stuff without soil contact....they will send that tap root down through to the soil in short order. those small seeds like brassicas will germinate in the moisture retaining dead thatch much like they will in a wet paper towel...difference is that root will hit soil in a short time.

 

[bwoods11]

Does it work as well with light soil?

I'm not sure, I have only tried it on good Barnes soil

 

[bwoods11]

First time i tried this method, i went on the heavy side with the seeding rate....it ended up being a bad move...the brassicas came in WAAAYYYYY too thick. normal broadcasting rates should suffice. i plant brassicas like this all the time...highly effective way of doing it. cultipack will help...but i never bother...just let the rain do its thing. lots of the seed will germinate in the dead stuff without soil contact....they will send that tap root down through to the soil in short order. those small seeds like brassicas will germinate in the moisture retaining dead thatch much like they will in a wet paper towel...difference is that root will hit soil in a short time.

Good points, I was surprised how well it works