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Howboutthemdawgs

Howboutthemdawgs

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Was reading a doom and gloom piece yesterday about the effects of AI on labor and lately the market has been selling off on the idea that ai is going to replace a lot more workers than ever imagined. Elon has mentioned needing a universal income because there will be no need for employment. But…so far are you seeing ai provide many tangible benefits to your occupation/life. I’m not saying it won’t by any means but so far I’ve seen zero, granted I’m not in a tech heavy field. Outside of making some annoying YouTube videos or telling me why me pee smells like asparagus after I eat it, it’s world and mine haven’t crossed paths.
 
What I've found is you really need to be careful about any answers you get from the chatbots. You assume the information is up to date, but many times it is seriously outdated. However, If you asked about underwater basket weaving in China 1,000 years ago it will probably be right on the money.
 
Best I can tell, it has added zero benefit to my life so far.
 
Zero. So far, I am not seeing AI cutting, loading, and hauling logs, running chicken houses, taking care of cattle during calvng season, fixing my plumbing, or filling my gas tank with me not getting out of the truck, attaching a new fender or replacing new boards on my 16 ft utility trailer, or pruning my peach and apple trees.

So, no.
 
Native Hunter said:
What I've found is you really need to be careful about any answers you get from the chatbots. You assume the information is up to date, but many times it is seriously outdated. However, If you asked about underwater basket weaving in China 1,000 years ago it will probably be right on the money.
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...as soon as I figure out why their always 32 year old asian girls...
 
Kooch said:
This article on AI is a good read. I just came across it last night.

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Something Big Is Happening

A personal note for non-tech friends and family on what AI is starting to change.
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I read that yesterday. I'm in the camp of most people have no idea what's coming. I wish I did, but I don't either. I'm just pretty certain everything will change.
 
Oh boy. I am sure you are going to get a bunch of different responses. I talk about or use AI just about everyday with my work and I am a slow adopter compared to most of my colleagues. I have friends and family in all walks of life that are using it for work or their hobbies. I have two nieces that are graduating with bachelors degrees that are entirely engrossed in it for their degree programs and already have jobs lined up that are going to be using it for the foreseeable future. In talking with them, I still don't really feel all that confident that even the experts know to what extent AI will be useful in the not too distant future.

Without a doubt, there will be fewer people needed in most admin type roles. I still think there will be a need for quality assurance people along the way, but I really don't see a way that it doesn't significantly impact the labor market. The Great Depression had somewhere around 25% unemployment at its worst point. I think we might look at those numbers with a very different perspective in just a few years.
 
Howboutthemdawgs said:
Was reading a doom and gloom piece yesterday about the effects of AI on labor and lately the market has been selling off on the idea that ai is going to replace a lot more workers than ever imagined. Elon has mentioned needing a universal income because there will be no need for employment. But…so far are you seeing ai provide many tangible benefits to your occupation/life. I’m not saying it won’t by any means but so far I’ve seen zero, granted I’m not in a tech heavy field. Outside of making some annoying YouTube videos or telling me why me pee smells like asparagus after I eat it, it’s world and mine haven’t crossed paths.
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I use grok quite a bit. I've had it write contracts for me, I'll use it to review a big quote before I send it off. It'll find emissions or make suggestions on wording. I ask it questions about blueprints and architectural plans.
I also have an AI assistant on the software I use for drafting & renderings. Everyone using it for that seems to think it's great and that they'll always need a person for the final Product. I disagree, i think it'll replace me completely.
 
hillrunner said:
I use grok quite a bit. I've had it write contracts for me, I'll use it to review a big quote before I send it off. It'll find emissions or make suggestions on wording. I ask it questions about blueprints and architectural plans.
I also have an AI assistant on the software I use for drafting & renderings. Everyone using it for that seems to think it's great and that they'll always need a person for the final Product. I disagree, i think it it'll replace me completely.
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100% one day it will run construction. Ai will design and then relay that information to robots who will do the work. They can work around the clock continuously without any issues humans face. That is if there’s an economy to even build anything.
 
Hoytvectrix said:
Oh boy. I am sure you are going to get a bunch of different responses. I talk about or use AI just about everyday with my work and I am a slow adopter compared to most of my colleagues. I have friends and family in all walks of life that are using it for work or their hobbies. I have two nieces that are graduating with bachelors degrees that are entirely engrossed in it for their degree programs and already have jobs lined up that are going to be using it for the foreseeable future. In talking with them, I still don't really feel all that confident that even the experts know to what extent AI will be useful in the not too distant future.

Without a doubt, there will be fewer people needed in most admin type roles. I still think there will be a need for quality assurance people along the way, but I really don't see a way that it doesn't significantly impact the labor market. The Great Depression had somewhere around 25% unemployment at its worst point. I think we might look at those numbers with a very different perspective in just a few years.
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The part I don’t think people can comprehend is how fast it’s now growing. The initial roll out was slow and clunky but it’s learning and adapting at an exponential pace now. I bet by even the end of the year we are facing some ginormous differences in employment. It’s setting up to be ugly and scary.
 
Howboutthemdawgs said:
The part I don’t think people can comprehend is how fast it’s now growing. The initial roll out was slow and clunky but it’s learning and adapting at an exponential pace now. I bet by even the end of the year we are facing some ginormous differences in employment. It’s setting up to be ugly and scary.
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I consider myself to be almost too optimistic at times. This is one thing that I have a hard time imagining going well for us. Is there really any indication that this will be used responsibly? Either by our future corporate overlords or by any government?
 
Hoytvectrix said:
I consider myself to be almost too optimistic at times. This is one thing that I have a hard time imagining going well for us. Is there really any indication that this will be used responsibly? Either by our future corporate overlords or by any government?
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NO. How may layoffs from the last 12 months can be blamed on ai? Thousands upon thousands. Where do those people get rehired? And the way it’s leaning and adapting is there even any off-ramp if thing go badly? I mean can you just got the power to the source and it dies? Obviously this stuff is way over my head.
 
Every data center I ever worked in, and it’s more than a few, had a big red “oh shit” lever that cut power.


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Data crunching, automated data entry, expensive employees doing basic computer work....

I tell kids to get something with a license. Ai will mot be writing scripts, approving drawings, or Interacting unsupervised on humans for quite awhile.

The last one the robots needs are the ones fixing tobots.
 
Kooch said:
Every data center I ever worked in, and it’s more than a few, had a big red “oh shit” lever that cut power.


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That’s comforting actually
 
I could see some jobs being eliminated, but I don’t think the sky is falling. Automation has been improving for decades and it removed some repetitive jobs and replaced them with more technical roles.

I don’t see chatgpt robots building houses or roads in my lifetime.
 
Howboutthemdawgs said:
Was reading a doom and gloom piece yesterday about the effects of AI on labor and lately the market has been selling off on the idea that ai is going to replace a lot more workers than ever imagined. Elon has mentioned needing a universal income because there will be no need for employment. But…so far are you seeing ai provide many tangible benefits to your occupation/life. I’m not saying it won’t by any means but so far I’ve seen zero, granted I’m not in a tech heavy field. Outside of making some annoying YouTube videos or telling me why me pee smells like asparagus after I eat it, it’s world and mine haven’t crossed paths.
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Yes, well kinda.

I’m an engineer in the petrochemical manufacturing world. Hair on fire most of the time. A lot of the offshoring of technical skilled jobs you hear about is effectively companies dipping their toes in the AI water. It’s a human today, but the work processes those humans follow expect to be replaced with computers in 10 years (my belief). A consolation with this is that we’re already feeling the effects of the future state today, in terms of impacts to domestic manufacturing engineering opportunities.

I was a high-achiever in school and my parents knew exactly what to push me toward. I have no idea for my kids.
 
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