24DB Residual?

[SwampCat]

I have a couple of food plots with a pretty decent stand of clover I want to plant wheat into. A lot more weedy than I like with broadleafs. Spray 24db and seed right after - or seed now and spray 24db how long after wheat comes up?

 

[FarmerDan]

I am always hesitant to recommend herbicide based fall weed control except in a couple situations. If the weeds are annuals frost will soon take care of your problem. If the weeds are perennials there's a very low chance you will get acceptable control as the growth cycle is nearing an end. Does 2,4-db have a residual? Probably but it won't affect grasses. It is a broadleaf herbicide. If the wheat is the question, well, you know the rest of the statement. Ah, to complete the thought for others, wheat is a grass. Or, maybe, I missed the point?

 

[SwampCat]

I am always hesitant to recommend herbicide based fall weed control except in a couple situations. If the weeds are annuals frost will soon take care of your problem. If the weeds are perennials there's a very low chance you will get acceptable control as the growth cycle is nearing an end. Does 2,4-db have a residual? Probably but it won't affect grasses. It is a broadleaf herbicide. If the wheat is the question, well, you know the rest of the statement. Ah, to complete the thought for others, wheat is a grass. Or, maybe, I missed the point?

I actually do know wheat is a grass

I just was not sure when I read that 24d can have a residual effect on seed germination - if that was all seeds or just broadleaf seeds

 

[FarmerDan]

I actually do know wheat is a grass

I just was not sure when I read that 24d can have a residual effect on seed germination - if that was all seeds or just broadleaf seeds

Good point. I don't know.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

I just did a quick literature search. In most cases of a grass seed establishment, there is no difference for the 2,4-D treated plots compared to spraying nothing at all. Most of the grass is tested were wheat or turfgrasses.

I think you'll be fine.

 

[Kdog]

This late in the growing season (I am down here too), I would not waste my time or the chems to treat a plot. That said, you would not have a problem spraying 24db if your plan is to plant wheat.

 

[SwampCat]

This late in the growing season (I am down here too), I would not waste my time or the chems to treat a plot. That said, you would not have a problem spraying 24db if your plan is to plant wheat.

I normally dont - but it is pretty thick in places

 

[TreeDaddy]

I normally dont - but it is pretty thick in places

and........you are probably a good 6 weeks away from first frost

bill

 

[SwampCat]

and........you are probably a good 6 weeks away from first frost

bill

Yes - maybe more

 

[birdog]

I just did a quick literature search. In most cases of a grass seed establishment, there is no difference for the 2,4-D treated plots compared to spraying nothing at all. Most of the grass is tested were wheat or turfgrasses.

I think you'll be fine.

The question was in regards to 2,4-db, not 2,4-d. I'm not trying to be a wise azz or are you claiming they both have the same residual affect? Because 2,4-d can smoke clover and 2,4-db will not I think it's important that we do not confuse the two.

This question has been asked many times before and it seems like all we ever get in response is anecdotal opinions, which I am not discounting at all.

 

[bigboreblr]

2,4db is tolerant of clover. It is marketed for clover food plots by certain manufacturers. It's more targetd toward alfalfa maintenance than clover, but works in clover.

Tempted to use it at my home. At camp sedge is my main problem, and in porr fertility places I welcome anything that can thrive during the summer. Come late summer, those spots go to rye.

Could be wrong 2,4db used in peanut fields too? Want to kill red aramath at home, which I might have well controlled from this year maybe. But, not sure what it will do with plantain, but wouldn't mind losing some plantain in my clover spot.

some say wait a week or two planting broadleaf based seeds with 2,4d. I can imagine 2,4db isn't horribly too off. Brassicas, vetches, and clover seeds. Between poor rain and lower temps, it may be a mute point right now.