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Wny Hunter

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ok, here is the back story. I recently had my land logged (2020) . I had the loggers clear cut a 3 acre parcel . They took what was of value to them and left the rest. I’ve hired a couple local guys to come in with an excavator and dozer to clear the land. I’ve instructed them to pop all the stumps and stack everything along the sides . This should be completed by June 1st. I had a soil test done and as expected , the results aren’t good ( I am in zone 5). My long term plan is a no till plot. My questions are more about where to start. I have already purchased 2 tons of Pel lime that I will spread as soon as the clearing work is done ( I cannot get Ag lime delivered). I’ve read buck wheat is a good soil builder. Will I be able to plant that, once the land is cleared, with the PH being so low? If the answer is yes, will I be able to plant the LC mix late summer early fall? Or should I hold off on that till next year , and just continue to build up the soil? I understand this is going to be a long term project , I just want to start off on the right foot.
 

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yoderjac

5 year old buck +
I would suggest doing another soil test when the clearing is done. A good operator will leave all your top soil, but many folks with a dozer will end up piling up your good topsoil to level the plot. Your OM looks good, but depending on how it is cleared, that may change. Looks like you will need close to 4 tons of lime. Making 2 applications is not a bad idea. Buckwheat does well on infertile soils and should grow fine after your first 2 ton application. Your soil type will be a factor in how fast the lime works and how much and frequently maintenance lime is needed.

You should be able to plant buckwheat fine in June as long as you get rain when needed in your area. I would not till. I'd just surface broadcast the lime. There is no need to rush. This fall, I'd give it another shot of lime, 1.75 ton. Rather than the full LC mix, I would just plant Winter Rye in the fall. It too will perform in poor pH and low fertility soil. This will give your amendments time to work. Both will be fine deer crops. They are very good crops to start with because not only will they grow in poor conditions, they handle deer browse pressure well. This will give you a chance to assess how much browse pressure your plots will get for future crop selection.

I would plant a mix of sunn hemp and buckwheat again next spring (you could add sunn him to the plant in June). Sunn hemp is a legume that will help fix N into your soil. By time to plant for next fall, your soil will likely be in shape to add brassica to the mix so the LC mix should be fine.

Best of luck,

Jack
 

BobinCt

5 year old buck +
I too agree with Jack.
 

Wny Hunter

Yearling... With promise
Thanks jack and bob. Do I have to do anything to my buckwheat before planting the winter rye in the fall ( Gly, cultipack, etc)?
 

yoderjac

5 year old buck +
I would try surface broadcasting into the buckwheat and cultipacking. If there are noxious weeds in the buckwheat, you can spry. Mowing or cultipacking will put the buckwheat on the ground where it will help mulch the WR seeds and desiccate quickly with soil contact.
 

Wny Hunter

Yearling... With promise
Thanks again
 
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