I have one old hang on tangled in a mess of 3 trees toppled, stand is in a big red cedar, cedar has mfr, honeysuckle, grape, and bittersweet tangling up it. The other two trees that came down on top of the one with the stand are another cedar, and gnarly mulberry, each tangled with the smae vines, mfr's... that stand is retired, just cant cut my way in to get it out.