Select Cut

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5 year old buck +
Anyone have any logging going on with their property this year? I have a logger coming in early next week to take a look and give me a bid. From what they said, tulip poplar is high which is fine with me if those go away. I dont have too many mature oaks, so I won't let them cut any of those. Anyone else looking at it? What kind of prices are you seeing?
 
Been pondering the same, recently. Just hate to think about the collateral damage that often goes along with timber harvest.
Depending on what you've got, it may be worthwhile to have a reputable consulting forester involved to make sure the loggers follow best management practices and put things 'right' once they're finished.
 
Definitely. I have two different foresters listed on a couple of the sites for NE Ohio to walk the place, get their thoughts, and discuss planning moving forward. Both will contract out and manage any timber cuts. Just curious what kind of pricing people are seeing currently with prices a bit higher than a couple years back.
 
We are in the middle of logging our place right now, at least part of it. There are so many variables in regard to price it would be hard to give a general answer on that. I just know im happy with the agreement i have and am excited to turn some of our state park looking stands into a mess.

You say that you dont have many mature oaks so no oaks are going, do you have anything else besides poplar? I would think there would have to be a good bit of poplar or some other hardwoods to be worth coming in for a logger. We are taking out several varieties of oak, hickory, walnut, poplar, and hard maple.
 
We have quite a bit poplar. Also very mature maples, cherry and hickories. The oaks I dont want gone because they are just aging out to putting out a mast crop. Have a lot of real big beech to come down as well, which I know doesnt garner much of a bid themselves.
 
I just had a forester mark my 20 acre property. Mostly hard and soft maple, and hickory. He estimated 10-12k and the high bid was 19k.
 
Here is breakdown of what he is taking.

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That’s some nice coin Chummer. Hopefully some regrowth comes with it, and possibly some skidding trails that can be seeded into something the deer find to be yummy !
 
All 213 trees from 20 acres? That seems like a lot although I've never looked into it before so I have no idea what to expect. I'm hoping that a good forester will help with the planning to improve it for the deer and pheasant, that cutting is worthwhile money wise, and also that it isn't cut enough that it is noticeable to me..... that asking too much, HA. Just curious with what info I'll get. I was definitely excited about being able to toss seed into any skid trails though. What have any of you used for that with success?
 
This property is like a park. You can see from one end to the other. I have been hunting it for two years and seen 1 deer despite it being in a high deer area. I told forester to go aggressive. I don’t care about future cuts I want it thick. A good forester can make it look any way you want it to look.
 
This property is like a park. You can see from one end to the other. I have been hunting it for two years and seen 1 deer despite it being in a high deer area. I told forester to go aggressive. I don’t care about future cuts I want it thick. A good forester can make it look any way you want it to look.
Start stocking up on extra ammo; 2,023 and after could be pretty good deer hunting.
 
This property is like a park. You can see from one end to the other. I have been hunting it for two years and seen 1 deer despite it being in a high deer area. I told forester to go aggressive. I don’t care about future cuts I want it thick. A good forester can make it look any way you want it to look.
Got ya. I usually see anywhere from a dozen to maybe 30 deer a day off my place. Finally getting results as well on buck size from the other work I've done so far with a 140, 150, and 160 taken in the last 3 years. So we are on our way. but I know it can be better for habitat as a whole if we cut some out. I've just always been reluctant to want to cut anything.
 
Start stocking up on extra ammo; 2,023 and after could be pretty good deer hunting.
I should be good at my current rate of one round per year. Although Mady has doubled the usage, and if we shoot does...I better get an extra box.
 
I had a little over 50 acres of my woods select cut 5 years ago. I hired a forester and he listened to want I wanted to achieve as far as habitat improvements. He did a awesome job. I don't regret it one bit, actually improved it alot. One of the best suggestions my forester made was to make several small clear cuts throughout the select cuts. (1/2 acre - 2 1/2) They have become great bedding spots and add diversity to the select cut areas. After 3 years it was hard to tell I even had logging done. With my select cut he marked all the crowded and poor quality trees to be removed at this cutting. It sounds backwards but the good quality trees were saved for the next cut in 20-25 years. Without the competition these trees will thrive and was told I should get 3 or 4 times more than if I cut them now because they will all be high quality.
 
I had thought a lot of times, if done right, you can do a select cut maybe around every 10 years or so. For you, next 20-25 years, what is that based on? Not disagreeing, just trying to learn as much as I can. My hesitation with cutting anything is I really like my woods as is. Although, I know it can definitely improve animal habitat. Too bad prices for aspen arent really high as I would like to get rid of all of those too.
 
Be prepared to go in and spray or burn invasive species. They are more than likely going to explode after your timber harvest.
 
Its really going to depend on what the stand has in it already, how you do your harvest, and how the trees left grow in a certain amount of time. People can say “this tree will be this big in 10 more years,” well...maybe, maybe not. Who knows what kind of weather and stresses the trees may face in the next decade or more? There are certainly some general principles we can follow to give them the best opportunity that we can but then there is that very important component called Mother Nature and she doesn’t have to follow the rules we set.

You probably know this already based off the couple comments you have made but logging is ugly. My place right now looks like a tornado has come through and they arent finished lol. I see where some people say “make sure they clean up and remove your tops.” There are some loggers that will definitely do that if you want but keep in mind that IS going to affect what they pay you for the timber. The more you have them do the less you get but it may be worth it to you to get the place cleaned up. But, i do think you will also lose some habitat benefit if you do that though. Its all about what you want but have realistic expectations.
 
That was part of the issue from before. The property was clear cut about 30 years ago, and then completely neglected after that. My efforts will be much more pro active.
 
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Its really going to depend on what the stand has in it already, how you do your harvest, and how the trees left grow in a certain amount of time. People can say “this tree will be this big in 10 more years,” well...maybe, maybe not. Who knows what kind of weather and stresses the trees may face in the next decade or more? There are certainly some general principles we can follow to give them the best opportunity that we can but then there is that very important component called Mother Nature and she doesn’t have to follow the rules we set.

You probably know this already based off the couple comments you have made but logging is ugly. My place right now looks like a tornado has come through and they arent finished lol. I see where some people say “make sure they clean up and remove your tops.” There are some loggers that will definitely do that if you want but keep in mind that IS going to affect what they pay you for the timber. The more you have them do the less you get but it may be worth it to you to get the place cleaned up. But, i do think you will also lose some habitat benefit if you do that though. Its all about what you want but have realistic expectations.
The tops Im planning to be cutting for my firewood needs. If it is as select a cut as I would want, I'm hoping it looks at least somewhat better than a normal cut. Will just need to see how it goes I guess. Anyone happen to have any of the "plans" a forester has put together for their place that they may be willing to share? Just curious what to expect there. First forester walking in on Thursday.
 
I just had a forester mark my 20 acre property. Mostly hard and soft maple, and hickory. He estimated 10-12k and the high bid was 19k.
I was considering hiring a forester to do the heavy chainsaw work for me, it would be nice to get some coin out of it too but my basic purpose is to get rid of any tree that doesn't drop a fruit or nut and give me some more room to plant more trees that do.
FORECON has an office right here in my town but I haven't approached them yet because I wanted some opinions before heading in any one direction. Who did you use if you don't mind me asking bud?
 
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