I ordered 30 seedlings this year from the local soil and water, planted 15 in a somewhat shady area and put the other 15 in gallon pots. The 15 in gallon pots didn’t leaf out. The 15 planted in shady spots are doing great, minus a few that deer found. Also put white oaks and shagbark hickories in pots and they are doing fantastic, fwiw. Also for what it’s worth, I am a novice tree planter at best.