Concordia Oaks and Swamp / Bur Hybrids

[letemgrow]

Concordia oak leaves starting to turn early with the drought

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[Mozark]

A few pics of one of the trees remaining at the Concordia rest stop.

 

[b116757]

My persimmons are turning early with the drought also makes finding them right now pretty easy they stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[williams111]

Here is an update on the Bottomland Bur Oak. It Is by far the best one I have growing. Planted in May 2020 as a 20-30" seedling it is now 10ish feet tall with a spreading habit. In 2021 it doubled in size. I didn't get any pics in 2022, but I did in 2023. Should I do any pruning on this or just let it go? I'm not worried about making a marketable log, just acorns. That is a 5' tube for reference.

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September 2023

 

[T-Max]

That little bit of curve at the top of the tube. Did it get caught in the bird netting when it grew a little bit? I had a chestnut tree that looked like a corkscrew because the growth got away from me.

 

[rocksnstumps]

That is some awesome growth for a burr oak. At least on my land they are slower growing than reds or regular whites but still produce acorns the quickest.

Thought the same as tmax on the curve coming out of the tube. Stopped using bird netting on tubes yrs ago due to that reason and losing a yrs worth of growth if not caught in time to correct. Did have one bird caught in a tube over last 20 yrs and hundreds of tubes so it happens but netting is more negative than positive with trees that grow fast.

 

[williams111]

Yep it did get caught in the bird net. I have removed most of them since then. That’s good to know, I was wondering if birds are actually anything to be concerned about

 

[Teeder]

I've used tubes for better than 20 years, more often than not, without bird netting. I'd never had a problem, so I quit using it. That is until this past year. I found 6 bluebirds dead in my tubes this past season! I'm going back to putting netting on any tube that's out in a field.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

That burr oak growth rate is nuts! very jealous.

 

[williams111]

I've used tubes for better than 20 years, more often than not, without bird netting. I'd never had a problem, so I quit using it. That is until this past year. I found 6 bluebirds dead in my tubes this past season! I'm going back to putting netting on any tube that's out in a field.

Was that in tubes with trees that had not reached the top of the tube? I assume once the tree gets large enough to fill a certain percentage of the tube birds are not an issue?

 

[Teeder]

Small trees that were not out of the top. I haven't seen a bird once the trees are nicely branched out.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

One thing I have been wondering about the bird netting is whether or not it helps keep wasps out of the tubes. I know it won't keep them out entirely, but it seems like ever since I started using the netting, I have been getting fewer nests and by extension, fewer racoon mangled tubes. Anyone else experience this?

 

[williams111]

Small trees that were not out of the top. I haven't seen a bird once the trees are nicely branched out.

Good to know

One thing I have been wondering about the bird netting is whether or not it helps keep wasps out of the tubes. I know it won't keep them out entirely, but it seems like ever since I started using the netting, I have been getting fewer nests and by extension, fewer racoon mangled tubes. Anyone else experience this?

Its crossed my mind to put a piece of window screen over the top until the tree reaches it to minimize wasps.

 

[TreeDaddy]

Here is an update on the Bottomland Bur Oak. It Is by far the best one I have growing. Planted in May 2020 as a 20-30" seedling it is now 10ish feet tall with a spreading habit. In 2021 it doubled in size. I didn't get any pics in 2022, but I did in 2023. Should I do any pruning on this or just let it go? I'm not worried about making a marketable log, just acorns. That is a 5' tube for reference.

May 2021
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July 2021
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September 2021
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May 2023
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September 2023
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obscene

I'm jealous as hell

bill

 

[Teeder]

Updates from any of you with Concordia's?
Average age that they produced?
I started some this year and would like to get a couple more.

 

[bwoods11]

Updates from any of you with Concordia's?
Average age that they produced?
I started some this year and would like to get a couple more.

I planted 20 in Minnesota. I’ll know more by next spring . Here is a bur hybrid from acorn in Minnesota.

 

[b116757]

I also planted Concordia for the first time this spring and haven’t even been out to look at them since planting but we have had a spectacularly wet year this year so I haven’t been worried about watering at all this year so far at least.

 

[Angus 1895]

I call them Mozarks! Cuz that’s who sent them. Planted 3 today, a Teeder English, a columnar hybrid, and a bur English cross.

All sent from the gracious members of this sight!

Thanks

 

[bwoods11]

I’m gonna plant some in Missouri ..

 

[g squared 23]

This is an “average” Concordia oak planted spring 2018. Good but not great sun, 6’ weed mat and cage. I didn’t always mow around them, this one was on its own the first couple of years. No acorns that I noticed.


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