What are these?

4wanderingeyes

5 year old buck +
I have a few bushes, that I don't know what they are. Can you help me identify if they are good or bad, and what they are? The first ones are about 12 feet tall, and have little berries on them now, but they had in the past got bigger and darker.
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These are small bushes, maybe a foot tall.
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Last question, are these black berries, or raspberries? Thea never seem to ripe. There are a random few around that have red berries on them. Are they beneficial at all to wildlife? Deer? Turkeys?
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Those look like blackberries to me. A ripe picked raspberry will be "hollow" inside while a blackberry will have a stem of sorts left in the center.
 
Blackberry and American highbush cranberry I think

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1st one could be spice bush. Snap a twig and sniff it. Strong smell to spice bush.
Definitely blackberry. Not as good as raspberry but still a good wildlife plant.

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The one with the red berries is not high bush cranberry. Leaves aren't right. HBC leaves have 3 lobes to them - hence the Latin name viburnum trilobum.

Blackberries around here feed birds of all kinds, including grouse and turkey, coons, foxes, opossum, and everyone's favorite - bears. A good plant to have around.
 
Are the red berrys = red current?
 
The one with the red berries is not high bush cranberry. Leaves aren't right. HBC leaves have 3 lobes to them - hence the Latin name viburnum trilobum.

Blackberries around here feed birds of all kinds, including grouse and turkey, coons, foxes, opossum, and everyone's favorite - bears. A good plant to have around.
I thought the same thing with the leaves but the one to the left of the berries in the second pic looks like it has the three lobes. I thought maybe they change as the plant matures?

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My wife also thought current. You are correct, I looked at the plants, some have the 3 point leaf like that of a high bush cranberry, but most are just single point leafs. My woods are full of the black berries, anywhere there is an open area, trails, or along my food plots they are all over. The ones with the red berries in them, I just noticed them this year, and there are only a couple small plants/bushes of them. The other tall bush, with the small green berries is growing in the edge of the road ditch, so it stays rather wet most of the year. I guess my biggest concern is if they are plants I should be concerned about, and try to kill them off, or let them grow. I just don't want something taking over my land, that I can prevent. I already have ferns throughout my woods.


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My wife also thought current. You are correct, I looked at the plants, some have the 3 point leaf like that of a high bush cranberry, but most are just single point leafs. My woods are full of the black berries, anywhere there is an open area, trails, or along my food plots they are all over. The ones with the red berries in them, I just noticed them this year, and there are only a couple small plants/bushes of them. The other tall bush, with the small green berries is growing in the edge of the road ditch, so it stays rather wet most of the year. I guess my biggest concern is if they are plants I should be concerned about, and try to kill them off, or let them grow. I just don't want something taking over my land, that I can prevent. I already have ferns throughout my woods.


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I'd never put blackberry or raspberry in the same class as ferns. Raspberry are one of my top native species. I love them. I actually have a hard time thinking about cutting or spraying them. They're great browse, everything eats the berries (including my family) and they are excellent cover.
Blackberry is also on my place and it's also a good native wildlife plant, but not quite as good as raspberry.
We're talking about good stuff, free stuff, that mother nature provides. The only concern that I'd have about berries is how to encourage them.

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For some reason the raspberries/black berries don't seem to ripen. They just stay green.


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For some reason the raspberries/black berries don't seem to ripen. They just stay green.


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Haha...I'll bet, that just about the time they start to ripen, the critters eat them. I see that happen here every year...looks like a mother lode, bumper crop of berries on the way just before they ripen. Then all of a sudden they start to disappear.
 
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