Weed ID

[biglakeba$$]

i planted 5 plots in turnips in late July. 3 of them I tilled up in mid august to replant in winter rye.
2 plots I left as is, and this is what I ended up with. There is some turnips under the mess, but very dominated by these 2 weeds.

This one I assume is Pigweed??


And whats this?

 

[wiscwhip]

I was going to say some type of amaranth(likely pigweed as stu suggested) in the first pic, second pic no clue.

 

[MoLandOwner]

If I get time to look through the weed book I will try and find out the second one. Almost looks like a chickweed. But will try and find out.

 

[biglakeba$$]

I nuked this plot in late june, and cant believe the pigweed that has taken over so fast. this thing was tilled bare dirt in late July and I planted brassica in it at that time.

 

[MoLandOwner]

Maybe Burcucumber? But I have never seen that in large patches before.

 

[wiscwhip]

If it is burcucumber, it appears to be missing the "pods", and it is pretty late for it as well.

 

[wiscwhip]

Can you get a closer photo of the individual leaves and flowers on the second weed? Also look for climbing tendrils(similar to those found on a pea plant) and spiny pods that contain the seeds. If you replanted in Aug, and even more likely if you disturbed the soil, it could very well be a late summer flush of bur cucumber. Thankfully, bur cucumber that germinates that late in the season very rarely ends up having viable seed and it is highly unlikely that it will reproduce. One other thing about bur cucumber though, that seed stays in the soil for a looooonnnnggg time, so watch carefully next spring and nuke it while it is young. You may need something stronger than gly to take it out if it starts to get too mature.

 

[wiscwhip]

That is the main reason I asked for close-ups of the leaves and flowers. The leaves don't have the "5-pointed" star look either, but young plants that just germinated within the last 3 to 4 weeks could look a bit different. I have seen it pop up this late in early harvested silage cornfields that were chisel plowed and planted to a winter wheat cover crop. Again, in that case the seed will likely not be viable. If it germinates in June like a normal year and grows all summer, that sh!t will become thick enough to plug up a combine head when harvesting soybeans.

 

[biglakeba$$]

I will get a close up this weekend. Here is an enlargment picture if this helps. Its a solid carpet of this stuff around the perimeter. probably around 12 inches tall.

 

[wiscwhip]

A bit pixelated, but it still doesn't quite look right in both the leaves and the blossoms. Again, on young plants that could be somewhat variable. As I said earlier, check for climbing tendrils and the "bur pods" when you look at it next time.

 

[Riggsgwp->]

Is this it?

 

[Riggsgwp->]

Kinda look like this?
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Garlic Mustard has different flower pattern. That shaggy soldier stuff grows thick in my garden. It's shallow rooted and pulls out easy. I've never sprayed it but I'm sure gly would work fine. The seedbank for that stuff in my garden seems never ending.

 

[MoLandOwner]

I have never ever heard of a weed called Shaggy Soldier in this part of MN. If that is what it is, it would be a new one for me.

 

[biglakeba$$]

Sure looks the same after googling it some more.

 

[biglakeba$$]

Its the same stuff in my garden as well Riggs.
Completely blankets it in no time.

I sprayed it with gly in the garden and it killed it with ease. I am sure it will be back.

I did bring turkey manure home from the cabin a few years ago and put in the garden. I dont recall if the weeds have always been present or not.

 

[BuckSutherland]

Top pic sure looks like gly resistant waterhemp to me. You sprayed it and it did nothing.