Stock Market is the bottom in?

[SD51555]

 

[Foggy47]

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10%......yawn. (for now)

 

[bwoods11]

I’ve been buying small amounts of silver, some gold and copper in the past years . I’m up a decent amount…It’s kind of addicting . I wish I’d more gold about 3 yrs ago !

 

[PatinPA]

My post on Feb 27 (#6255) ... where I revealed that I moved completely out of tech (Fidelity Blue Chip very heavy on Mag-7), coasted to money markets as a sideline play, suffered very small losses in comparison to what has happened during the last 4 weeks (I got out of big tech Feb 21 ... some 35 days ago ... and predicted a rocky period to unfold over the next 4-6 months).
However, the market is a looooooong-term play and it will RECOVER at some point ... the key is to understand when that point (the bottom)
has been reached. Good luck to all the dip-rip-and flippers .... remember, the lower it goes, the greater the boost it takes to get you back to even, and no, I'm not advocating that anyone sell at a substantial loss.
When the downside risk of a pullback or worse (inflated values of tech) appears substantially greater than the upside potential (burn out the frenzy over Nvidia and some others) one can think of it as a timing opportunity (even though one can't time the market with any regularity or high accuracy). What the market does next Tuesday will be very interesting.

I sold most of what I had that was positive and a few that were close to even. I only liquidated about 30% of what I have. everything that's negative I'm just going let ride out. Not sure if I can time it but fidelity's money market is around 5% so it's been better for me to have cash anyway haha.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

The “corrections” don’t usually occur during times of economic strength. Which we are currently in.

This is self imposed.

I am stuck. I’m not dumb enough to try to get out now, I will ride it out or at least my kids will benefit If I don’t get to enjoy my many years of disciplined investing.

Sad, isn't it? For the one in this thread who said 10% to 20% corrections happen every year ................. wrong. I've got charts going back decades, and those types of corrections are rare. Markets around the globe are in shock, and in mostly downward trends. Trends being the operative word here - not day-to-day blips one way or the other. The only place looking decent is European markets, as of this date. Who knows how they'll fare as days pass. No country on Earth trusts the U.S. anymore. Instability is not good for any markets. Been studying this stuff since 1977.

 

[bwoods11]

Sad, isn't it? For the one in this thread who said 10% to 20% corrections happen every year ................. wrong. I've got charts going back decades, and those types of corrections are rare. Markets around the globe are in shock, and in mostly downward trends. Trends being the operative word here - not day-to-day blips one way or the other. The only place looking decent is European markets, as of this date. Who knows how they'll fare as days pass. No country on Earth trusts the U.S. anymore. Instability is not good for any markets. Been studying this stuff since 1977.

You only have to go back to 2022… the NASDAQ dropped -33%. We had 9% inflation, the highest level since Jimmy Carter .

 

[Buckly]

Sad, isn't it? For the one in this thread who said 10% to 20% corrections happen every year ................. wrong. I've got charts going back decades, and those types of corrections are rare. Markets around the globe are in shock, and in mostly downward trends. Trends being the operative word here - not day-to-day blips one way or the other. The only place looking decent is European markets, as of this date. Who knows how they'll fare as days pass. No country on Earth trusts the U.S. anymore. Instability is not good for any markets. Been studying this stuff since 1977.

Doesn’t trust the US to do what?

 

[homerj]

A History Lesson on Market Corrections

<p>Corrections Are Not Uncommon Occurrences In times of uncertainty, we find it best to zoom out, look at the bigger picture, and put everything into perspective. Markets have been performing extremely well as of late, well above long-term averages. As it stands, the S&P 500 is up nearly 12%...

rand.hightoweradvisors.com

 

[Westwind]

What caused the market turndown in 2022? Inflation? Worldwide inflation?

Was that inflation in 2022 limited to the United States? Who recovered more quickly, the U.S. economy or the worlds economy?

I think when we talk about Carter and inflation I have similar questions. What caused it? What did he do about it?

For one thing he appointed Paul Volker to the Fed. He stayed into the Reagan administration. Reagan appointed Alan Greenspan. Who was regarded as more successful?

I think thats a better discussion. Biden sucked a lot of ways but “Biden Sucks” isn’t an answer to what happened in 2022.

I’ll go back to this- I think our current pain is self inflicted. I’m not convinced that a recession is a cure to what ails us. I’m not convinced that we are on a path to prosperity for all. I will gladly eat crow on that if it happens though. That is speaking as an investor not a trader.

 

[Westwind]

Adding to the above- did we have an ailment that required a cure?

This reminds me more of a doctor prescribing pills to reach a sales threshold to win a free trip. Unnecessary medicine.

 

[jsasker007]

I think our government(both sides) has driven our country off into the weeds and for the most part hasn't cared about the constantly increasing debt. They are spending way more than they need to on almost everything they ever get involved with. That's the problem in my opinion. Over paying for everything for decades because they simply don't have a clue how to manage the budget and don't give a damn. That's why we are where we are in my opinion.

 

[bwoods11]

What caused the market turndown in 2022? Inflation? Worldwide inflation?

Was that inflation in 2022 limited to the United States? Who recovered more quickly, the U.S. economy or the worlds economy?

I think when we talk about Carter and inflation I have similar questions. What caused it? What did he do about it?

For one thing he appointed Paul Volker to the Fed. He stayed into the Reagan administration. Reagan appointed Alan Greenspan. Who was regarded as more successful?

I think thats a better discussion. Biden sucked a lot of ways but “Biden Sucks” isn’t an answer to what happened in 2022.

I’ll go back to this- I think our current pain is self inflicted. I’m not convinced that a recession is a cure to what ails us. I’m not convinced that we are on a path to prosperity for all. I will gladly eat crow on that if it happens though. That is speaking as an investor not a trader.

I’m pointing out that we are not far off a correction. Certainly Biden caused a big portion of the inflation when he restricted the pipelines & was anti/oil .

We had major supply chain issues. Inflation was very high, he had a hand in it .

Is the Trump admin responsible for the current stock market drop , I’d say yes . They have made a choice to cut the budget and add tariffs and the market has gone down as a result.

 

[bwoods11]

Im definitely a buyer, if we get lower interest rates and tax cuts— the market will jump.

I expect a 1000 point jump (day) in the Dow in the next 2 weeks . My time frame is not one year, so I’m a buyer !!

 

[Jerry-B-WI]

I think our government(both sides) has driven our country off into the weeds and for the most part hasn't cared about the constantly increasing debt. They are spending way more than they need to on almost everything they ever get involved with. That's the problem in my opinion. Over paying for everything for decades because they simply don't have a clue how to manage the budget and don't give a damn. That's why we are where we are in my opinion.

And this is why I say that Congress has to beheld responsible and accountable for the mess we're in. Not 150K probationary workers, or 20% of any gov. agency. Trump won't be around for ever and those tariffs won't keep us out of debt.

 

[rocksnstumps]

If y'all wanna artificially feel better just click on "5 yrs" return button instead of the "YTD" one. For practically any fund from the COVID crash with a low in Mar 2020 until today is pretty dramatic. But don't look back 5 yrs and 2 months. Not quite the same thrill but still ok. Perspective everyone

 

[OakSeeds]

My response to the debt situation .... term limits, baby, term limits

 

[Angus 1895]

I believe Tariffs are a selective consumption tax.

U can choose not to pay it.

I am surprised the Democrats didn’t use them.

Like Donald Duck says…….

“ If not made in the USA………… put it Quack!”

 

[Brian662]

 

[bwoods11]

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Who’s right your chart or Google ?