Quail safe

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5 year old buck +
Listened to the new meateater with this professor from Texas tech who is tackling the decline issue. He has some compelling research and successes. He established the first and only fda approved animal feed to essentially deworm the quail from 2 types of worms that are apparently one of the leading issues in their survival. Attached is the link to the product. I’m thinking of trying some

Also the podcast if anyone is interested
 
I'd sure like to have good quail numbers again!
 
Hmmm seems like this guy might have cashed in on "creating" a problem and then a solution for it. I have not heard of these things as being a major issue with quail on any podcast I have listened to which tends to be focused on scientific studies, field research and experts in the wildlife/habitat fields. Yes these worms/parasites occur in quail and many other game birds, but from what I have found there hasn't been a study indicating that they are a leading cause of population declines.
 
Hmmm seems like this guy might have cashed in on "creating" a problem and then a solution for it. I have not heard of these things as being a major issue with quail on any podcast I have listened to which tends to be focused on scientific studies, field research and experts in the wildlife/habitat fields. Yes these worms/parasites occur in quail and many other game birds, but from what I have found there hasn't been a study indicating that they are a leading cause of population declines.
I have been installing habitat at my new farm specifically for quail and have been finding as much as I can about it, and this is the first I've heard of it. I haven't listened to this episode yet and I'm looking forward to it.

My understanding is that it has mostly been a habitat loss issue. Specifically, farmers have gotten better about cleaning up fence rows and the breaking up of connected diverse habitats.
 
I have been installing habitat at my new farm specifically for quail and have been finding as much as I can about it, and this is the first I've heard of it. I haven't listened to this episode yet and I'm looking forward to it.

My understanding is that it has mostly been a habitat loss issue. Specifically, farmers have gotten better about cleaning up fence rows and the breaking up of connected diverse habitats.
It’s worth the listen. He argues it’s definitely not all habitat. He backs it by highlighting some renowned ranches in Texas that lost their quail despite premier habitat
 
I'd be concerned about getting it eaten by quail and not something else eating it. Be kinda hard to keep track of I would think. Maybe not
 
I know with the grouse animals raiding their egg nest sites is a problem. NEver heard of quail worms.

Could be one of those problems you get with quail in captivity that you do not get with wild animals. Had bob whites for about 4 years to train my dog.
 
Listened to a podcast today by a few upland bird specialists that provided some more food for thought and put things into a better perspective. As I previously mentioned, eye worms have been documented in wild quail since the 1960s. There to date has not been a study conducted that proves that eye worms negatively impact a wild POPULATION of quail. Keep in mind that when we talk about wildlife we monitor and access total population in terms of the status of any given species. Wildlife management decisions are based on the population as a whole not on factors that negatively impact individuals within a population. Paraphrasing one of the speakers on the podcast today, we honestly do not care if an individual survives or dies when discussing wildlife management practices. This isn't veterinary science, where every animal is important. If that wasn't the case then we would prohibit hunting. Basically, meaning that if an individual quail dies from eye worms, it really doesn't matter in terms of managing the population. If 10s of thousands die then it might be worth investigating further. That has yet to be scientifically proven to be happening. Keep in mind only about 20% of the quail population lives over a year. So whether a individual quail dies from a predator, hunting, lack of food, eye worms, etccc. it is really not relevant as 80% of them will die from something within a years time. Something like the success of the Quail Guard product will be extremely hard to validate in a wild setting as you have to find 2 nearly identical populations on "identical" properties and then compare the data over several years as to population trends on those 2 parcels.

I did look at the Quail Guard website, pretty vague information on it which is to be expected. Information that implies the parasites are directly contributing to the decline in wild quail while, even though as I stated they reference the fact that 80% of wild quail do not live a year regardless of the specific cause of death. You also need to use their specially designed feeder for best results. I gathered from their website that you are only supposed to feed it twice a year, the rest of the year you should supplement with their super duper fortified quail feed. Eye roll. Seems like some other shyster wildlife entrepreneurs.
 
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I listened to it last week, it was interesting for about 85% of the show, then it started to sound like an infomercial, I think he started to do more harm than good.
 
Tall Timbers Plantation - probably the king in bobwhite quail research supplements with milo. I have not read where they mention the worms. Maybe it is more of a tx and ok problem
 
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