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Protecting tree seeds

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Buck Fawn
Im looking for feedback on something ive been developing for a couple years.
What are the reasons most people plant seedlings and not direct seed trees?
How many seeds would you plant to get one tree to survive?
Would a product that 4x the chance of getting directly seeded trees to germinate be a product that would interest you?

I know this is the fruit tree secion but this item would be effective for any type of tree seeds.

Thanks for any feedback or thoughts.
 
Im looking for feedback on something ive been developing for a couple years.
What are the reasons most people plant seedlings and not direct seed trees?
How many seeds would you plant to get one tree to survive?
Would a product that 4x the chance of getting directly seeded trees to germinate be a product that would interest you?

I know this is the fruit tree secion but this item would be effective for any type of tree seeds.

Thanks for any feedback or thoughts.
I grow A LOT of trees from seed each year. I technically plant way more seeds in the field than seedlings grown in a more controlled environment, but I prefer to grow them in containers first before transplanting them. I'll explain my reasoning.

1. I live several hours away from my farms, and I mostly grow trees indoors as a cabin fever type of winter project. I grow 150-200 trees/plants indoors each winter/spring. I also have air-pruning trays/boxes and a Missouri gravel bed that is off-site. I recognize that direct seeding is much faster, but it has its limitations.

2. Because of the distance, keeping an eye on direct seeded trees is not feasible. So I mostly use tree tubes or cages for protecting the seeds or seedlings.

3. I would rather spend the limited time I have planting tree seedlings that are more likely to take than playing a numbers game with direct seeding. I occasionally direct seed into extra tree tubes or cages if I have them, but is almost the same time it takes to plant a seedling that is a few months older.

4. Planting seedlings helps me keep track of what works and what doesn't. I don't want to spend time making tags for seeds if only a small percentage are going to work. By planting fewer and larger seedling trees, I can shorten the time it takes to learn what works and what doesn't.

The majority of the planting I do is actually unprotected nut/acorn planting in the early or late winter. These are generally with leftover seed that I don't need or things that I collected myself. It works fairly well, but the deer numbers mean very few seedlings make it.
 
Many guys on here, me included trying to fight the odds of nature. Trees grow thousands of seeds, but lucky if one or two make a seedling.

Hoyt is right, start them in controlled conditions. Then cage them. I have gotten away with 2ft x 4ft tall 1/4" hardware fabric / rabbit cage material. Things get nibbled a bit, but only 1 loss so far. Some large critter ran my cage right over. Makes it around $2 a cage. I cut maple branches down at camp, last alot longer than birch.

Some guys direct seed with hardware mesh on top of it . Keeps the squirrels from digging them up.

Alot of trees stick propagate. I am propagating mulberry from sticks this year. Got a lesser known variety that survives zone 3. Good for summer trail camera pics at camp.
 
Im looking for feedback on something ive been developing for a couple years.
What are the reasons most people plant seedlings and not direct seed trees?
How many seeds would you plant to get one tree to survive?
Would a product that 4x the chance of getting directly seeded trees to germinate be a product that would interest you?

I know this is the fruit tree secion but this item would be effective for any type of tree seeds.

Thanks for any feedback or thoughts.
I'd much rather direct seed trees, but the predation rates of the seed nuts I've planted is "most of them". I'd love to try whatever product you're making, and would certainly share feedback!

Our camp is getting cut this year and have a lot of areas I want to direct seed. I have a good source of nuts that I'd rather direct seed than my plan to start in pots, which I think I'm finally getting good at.

Would you eventually need to tube or cage after starting with your product?
 
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