Norway Spruce
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BJE80
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Also do you guys just plant seedlings or a little bigger? How long does a seedling take to get of decent size.
Kansas-andres
5 year old buck +
My Dad planted 1 ft. Spruce 5 years ago. They basically looked like twigs with a needle on top. Today they are around 3.5 foot tall and fairly thick. Make sure any spruce you plant have sun. Don't plant them under a conopy, they will never get big.
Also, If you want 100 established spruce trees, plant 200. Based on plantings we have done, 50% die. Deer snap them with antlers, brouse and trample them.
Also, If you want 100 established spruce trees, plant 200. Based on plantings we have done, 50% die. Deer snap them with antlers, brouse and trample them.
Bluecollaroutdoors
5 year old buck +
http://www.itascagreenhouse.com/page4.html
I planeted 600 last year, 400 norway 100 black and 100 white spruce. Only the Whites are being browsed a bit and even then its like 10 percent of the top in one clean cut. I got the 4As. Like sticking a small carrot in the ground.
You get a tremendous price break if you order 500. In my opinion not worth your time for 100. Find a friend and get 500. At 500 they are 23cents a pop. I think like 1.25 if you get under 100. You can do the math on that one.
It took me less time to do 600 plugs than 150 bareroot trees last year and my plug success is higher. As for growth I researched alot and it seemed like nothing in year 1 and very little in 2 and 3, but by year 5 and after it should be about a foot a year. I have to open woods or major sunlight so for me I am sure it will be slower but better than nothing. Good luck.
I planeted 600 last year, 400 norway 100 black and 100 white spruce. Only the Whites are being browsed a bit and even then its like 10 percent of the top in one clean cut. I got the 4As. Like sticking a small carrot in the ground.
You get a tremendous price break if you order 500. In my opinion not worth your time for 100. Find a friend and get 500. At 500 they are 23cents a pop. I think like 1.25 if you get under 100. You can do the math on that one.
It took me less time to do 600 plugs than 150 bareroot trees last year and my plug success is higher. As for growth I researched alot and it seemed like nothing in year 1 and very little in 2 and 3, but by year 5 and after it should be about a foot a year. I have to open woods or major sunlight so for me I am sure it will be slower but better than nothing. Good luck.
scott44
5 year old buck +
I'm going with NCR Styro 20 and they were just under $2/tree. To me plugs is the only way to go now.
Kansas-andres
5 year old buck +
How is your survival and growth rate? thanks.
tooln
5 year old buck +
I get mine from
http://www.lauraslanenursery.com/
They were 3 year old bare root 9-14" & .24 each if buying over 1k if I remember right, this was in 2013 I bought 1300. In smaller amounts they were .90 each, 2014 I got 150. I used root gel and have over 90% survival rate.
http://www.lauraslanenursery.com/
They were 3 year old bare root 9-14" & .24 each if buying over 1k if I remember right, this was in 2013 I bought 1300. In smaller amounts they were .90 each, 2014 I got 150. I used root gel and have over 90% survival rate.
Kansas-andres
5 year old buck +
tooln, How is your growth rate?
thanks for the link. I may get a few hundred more this year.
Dave63
5 year old buck +
Very good on both accounts. Although proper preparation before with weeds is essential as well as after they are planted. I kill of the area the year before and use a pre emergent right after planting
Jim Timber
5 year old buck +
What's your spacing there Dave? Looks awful close together in the rows.
tooln
5 year old buck +
I'd call it good. The ones planted in 2013 put on about 3-4" on average, some more. I planted them in a clear cut. No prep work, no weed killer or fert. Just went to town with the dibble bar.
Jordan Selsor
5 year old buck +
Anyone ever plant these in Mo?? Wonder how they would perform with our hot summers
Dave63
5 year old buck +
We had a really wet spring and I couldn't wait anymore it was to the point of get them in the ground before they die. They are about 6-8 feet apart. That planting is a food plot screen. So I wasn't to worried about how close they were as I don't really want the deer bedding there. I have a planter to dig them out and replant later on where needed. I couldn't plant all the areas I had originally planned on. You can see the standing water in back. So better to get them in and re do later than just let die in the box.
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John-W-WI
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Dave,
You gotta try plugs (if you haven't already) rather than bareroot from the DNR. I've held plugs in their styrofoam container all summer (not ideal, but it worked) and planted in the fall. With bareroot you are stuck once they show up!
-John
Jim Timber
5 year old buck +
Itasca says you can plant plugs any time the ground won't freeze within a month of planting. They need time to set roots so they don't frost heave out.
You'd need to keep them watered, but if they're in the transport foam, you could hold them all summer into fall like John said. With a plug planting tool, getting a few hundred in the ground is only a day or two of moderately paced planting. I did 200 MG rhizomes with a shovel in a few hours, and I'm a gimp. :)
You'd need to keep them watered, but if they're in the transport foam, you could hold them all summer into fall like John said. With a plug planting tool, getting a few hundred in the ground is only a day or two of moderately paced planting. I did 200 MG rhizomes with a shovel in a few hours, and I'm a gimp. :)
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
I planted a batch at my camp 18 yrs. ago and it's the best thing we've done for holding deer and providing security / thermal cover. Norways and white spruce both.
Love the spruce pic w/ the grass and green strip mixed in No-Fo !! Excellent set-up.
Love the spruce pic w/ the grass and green strip mixed in No-Fo !! Excellent set-up.
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