Next years plantings

[b116757]

I just ordered 600 tree tubes and 3x3 weed mats for next years planting. This year I planted about 125 oaks in the white oak group 20 fruit trees and half dozen chestnuts. Next spring I’m going to plant.

75 Nuttall oak
75 Black oak
75 Shumard oak
75 Northern Red oak
100 red Oak acorns from locally sourced heavy annual production trees.
30 Chestnuts
16 apple/crab apple

I am open to suggestions on other oaks in the red group that are heavy acorn producing trees.

These will all go in one location and I have traded with several members for some late dropping Sawtooth oak acorns, some chestnuts and other acorns that will be planted on a different area of the farm.

I read someplace that it’s recommended to have about 3 times more red oak than white on a property so I’m working to remedy that. This is old cattle county with very nearly no oaks on the place at all currently with the exception of a few Pin oaks.

 

[TreeDaddy]

Tell me more about black oak

Is it a reliable producer?

I havent read much regarding its use for habitat ,etc

bill

 

[b116757]

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MDC Tree Seedling

I personally have no experience with black oak but from some of my reading on oaks it’s supposed to be a decent acorn producing tree. Actually looking at that acorn production article from Missouri Scarlet oak should probably be high on my planting list it’s been a while since I read that article I had forgotten about Scarlet oak.

 

[Teeder]

I only have a handful of northern red's on my place. I've been releasing them and putting tubes around the little natural ones that are coming up. The neighboring properties are loaded with reds but there are no whites in the area. So I've been concentrating on whites to offer something different.
The one red variety I have been adding is a northern red / shumard hybrid, with hopes of a slightly later drop time.
The only experience I have with a black oak is one in my brother's yard that was planted around 1978-1980. It took 30 years to produce acorns!

 

[b116757]

There is a oak in the local NRCS office yard here in town that is a huge annual production tree of very large red oak acorns. I’m no botany expert and am not entirely sure what specific red oak it is. I think maybe black oak or Shumard. I am going to plant about 50 of its acorns in my red oak planting this spring, it’s one reason I was leaning toward some black oak and Shumard on my short list. Because I think that’s what the NRCS office tree is. I did just see Pikes Peek nursery has Scarlet oak so I’ll probably plant some of them also.

 

[b116757]

My 600 tree tubes arrived today and my weed mats arrived early this week. Now I have to buy some 1/2” rebar and cut them twice this gives me 6.5’ stakes.

 

[TimberHawk]

I just ordered 600 tree tubes and 3x3 weed mats for next years planting. This year I planted about 125 oaks in the white oak group 20 fruit trees and half dozen chestnuts. Next spring I’m going to plant.

75 Nuttall oak
75 Black oak
75 Shumard oak
75 Northern Red oak
100 red Oak acorns from locally sourced heavy annual production trees.
30 Chestnuts
16 apple/crab apple

I am open to suggestions on other oaks in the red group that are heavy acorn producing trees.

These will all go in one location and I have traded with several members for some late dropping Sawtooth oak acorns, some chestnuts and other acorns that will be planted on a different area of the farm.

I read someplace that it’s recommended to have about 3 times more red oak than white on a property so I’m working to remedy that. This is old cattle county with very nearly no oaks on the place at all currently with the exception of a few Pin oaks.

What was the reasoning behind having the 4:1 red oak to white oak ratio?

 

[b116757]

I’m shooting more for a about a 3:1 just some article I read recommended that ratio and it made sense to me so I ran with it.

 

[The Fishman]

Good luck with the planting. Where did you order your tree tubes?

 

[b116757]

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Here is the article I was referencing for the ratio. It does make sense to me to plant on that ratio initially and make changes as I figure out which species do best on my ground.

I ordered the tubes from Treepro.com I do prefer the Pro tubes over the Miracle tubes for maintenance

 

[buckdeer1]

How tall of tubes and were they vented.I didn't do rebar.I had bought the treated stakes from treepro and most of them lasted until the tubes were ready to come off.When I ran out of tubes I use 3/4 in PVC cut in half. I don't know which is cheaper now days. Where did you get your nuttalls?

 

[b116757]

60” vented $2.90 each if you buy more than 500. I like rebar nothing to rot off before the trees are ready to remove the tubes and I can cut them at 6.5’ pound them in to 60” and have my tube fully supported to the top. Nuttall I got from MDC

MDC Tree Seedling

 

[b116757]

I ordered 100 trees from these guys last year they have been fine also

Pin Oak - Seedlings - Pikes Peak Nurseries

Seedling

www.pikespeaknurseries.net

 

[b116757]

I like the 6-12” trees to plant with a dibble bar.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

I ordered 100 trees from these guys last year they have been fine also

Pin Oak - Seedlings - Pikes Peak Nurseries

Seedling

www.pikespeaknurseries.net

Where are you located, if I may ask? What state?

 

[b116757]

I’m normally in a state of confusion.

 

[b116757]

Kansas

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Kansas

Got relatives there, near Wichita. Just wondered when you listed Pikes Peak Nursery as a place you're buying trees.

 

[b116757]

They had what I wanted in stock so I ordered from them. I will probably order scarlet oak from them this next spring also.

 

[buckdeer1]

I got 4 chestnuts that will be here this week,It will take longer to find a place to plant than to do it.I have bought alot of tubes from them and have let my oaks grow to where they were just about touching the tubes.Usually cut off and put a cage around tree just big enough to allow about a 12 inch gap around.I tie where if I would miss taking off cage it would pop off and no stake.I like all the varieties of oak you are doing.There wasn't any kind of oak on my property until I planted them