Muzzle loader

[Wind Gypsy]

I have a smokeless TC Encore .45 as well. Barrel came from Arrowhead and it is an absolute shooter! I size all my bullets and shoot bullet to bore. It is one of my favorite rifles.

209 primers are very dirty which is why I went with large rifle magnum primers.

That’s what I have as well. I’ve been struggling a bit to get it how I want with iron sights but it did well with a scope.

 

[TonySoprano]

I’m not really into muzzle loading just want to be able to let the kids sit during that season.

If you want something EASY look into the Traditions Nitro Fire. From what I can see it's legal in your state. I never fooled with a muzzleloader before , because I heard they were a pain to clean and didn't like the idea of leaving a gun loaded with powder OR having to worry about moisture with the powder . You load the bullet like a traditional muzzleloader , then break open the action like a single shot shotgun and load in a "firestick" and put a primer in and you are good to go. If you want to climb a treestand or at the end of a hunt just remove the firestick , and leave the bullet in. The next hunt just put the firestick back in. It's Easy to clean too....I use the special Firestick patches.

https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/nitrofire

 

[matinc]

I hereby believe that muzzle loaders should go back to the traditional basics and scopes outlawed. It's becoming way to easy and it's time to make a stand for fair chase.

 

[b116757]

I hereby believe that muzzle loaders should go back to the traditional basics and scopes outlawed. It's becoming way to easy and it's time to make a stand for fair chase.

How much fair chase are we talking spears?

 

[MadMadHoosier]

Good to know

As others have mentioned, to make life easier when loading multiple shots in a row at the range, and cleaning afterwards, I'd recommend converting what ever you buy to Blackhorn 209 powder. We've converted a CVA Accura and two older Remington 700s. With a CVA the conversion is as simple as changing out the breech plug and getting 209 shotgun primers. The older Remington's took a little more work with a conversion kit from Badger. We shoot 70 grains, "by weight" (be careful, to do the correct weight/volume conversion when using BH209!!!) of Blackhorn 209 behind a 250 grain PowerBelt Aerolite, and all 3 M/L will take a whitetail up to 130 yards without scope adjustment or holdover. We've tried using a "magnum" charge of BH209 and did not like the kick for what little extra range was gained.

 

[TonySoprano]

I hereby believe that muzzle loaders should go back to the traditional basics and scopes outlawed. It's becoming way to easy and it's time to make a stand for fair chase.

Believe what you want but until it becomes illegal , use whatever you want. Years ago Virginia use to have a 2 week early Muzzleloader season, a 2 week rifle season and a 2 week late Muzzleloader season. This year we have a 2 week early Muzzleloader and then a 7 week rifle season !.

 

[buckdeer1]

Unless they just changed something there are no restrictions on powder,sabots or scopes and I have never heard of the copper bullet thing but will look

 

[bigboreblr]

In NY you got 3 months to get a deer. Still too lazy, go next door to PA for january flintlock.... Get with a farmer, you can hunt does in the summer with permits. They still don't get enough deer harvested.....

Fancy and ultra modern is great, but good old basic equipment gets the job done. A spray with windex and a bore swab and external wipe, corrosion is gone..... Even if a bit of residue remains. Wouldn't push it though. Clean her good. Clean everything in the safe good. Got a great looking homemade 45 caplock from the 1960's and a great looking glenfield model 30 30-30. They were taken cared of.

Personally, I use 20:1 water and ballistol. After a shoot, I do q quick wipe down and swab the bore with a wet patch or two, then a dry patch or two. When I get home I clean it good. I use windex in a pinch. Moose milk is similar to ballistol n water. Many miltiaries, including the USA still use blackpowder for artillery and use ballistol n water to clean. I store with WD40 when cleaned. I check it the next day for grime / rust and clena more if needed.

I leave clean guns loaded the whole season till I use it. No problems, no failed ignitions. If it's a wet rainy day, I change out the load. I put in a soft case and bring inside to warm up slowly. Quickly warming up exposed to air ciculation makes condesation on metal. I try to put it in the coolest art of the cabin or trailer. I Dry patch the bore bore loading. I then use a lightly oiled patch with WD40 to get a light coat on the bore to prevent rust while outside or for that season. Even left guns loaded from october season and still worked fine in december.

Clean the breech plug in soap and water, clean that flash hole best you can. I use a drill bit with my hand and twist the gunk out. Do not store the breech with oil, do not store in the gun. Leave the gun barrel muzzle down to drip out any extra oil. Do those things, the gun is exremely reliable. Never had a problem, never do a fouling shot with a cap. Long stick goes boom..... If I am allowed to quote krokus...

 

[buckdeer1]

Buy one with stainless steel barrel and breech plug,makes it so much easier. I also checked and nothing appears to have changed in Kansas.You can use scopes and sabots