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I put in for a managed hunt near where I live with the “assurance” it would take three or four years to be drawn, based on the odds. My intention was to build up some points to ensure a draw once I retire. To my surprise, I was chosen this year—which means I am not ready!

The park is 10 miles from our home, so I will have the advantage of scouting. The campground will be available for hunters only, so I’ll likely bring the trailer and e-bike.

The hunt will be Nov 1 & 2 (the peak rut in this part of Missouri). This is a muzzleloader only hunt. There is also a requirement to harvest two does before harvesting a buck. There are tales of 150s and better roaming the park, and I’ve seen some nice deer in the 130s walking through the campgrounds. The double earn-a-buck will be the challenge. I am already envisioning a 170 walking by with only one doe tag filled.
 
I put in for a managed hunt near where I live with the “assurance” it would take three or four years to be drawn, based on the odds. My intention was to build up some points to ensure a draw once I retire. To my surprise, I was chosen this year—which means I am not ready!

The park is 10 miles from our home, so I will have the advantage of scouting. The campground will be available for hunters only, so I’ll likely bring the trailer and e-bike.

The hunt will be Nov 1 & 2 (the peak rut in this part of Missouri). This is a muzzleloader only hunt. There is also a requirement to harvest two does before harvesting a buck. There are tales of 150s and better roaming the park, and I’ve seen some nice deer in the 130s walking through the campgrounds. The double earn-a-buck will be the challenge. I am already envisioning a 170 walking by with only one doe tag filled.

You have to earn your does on the same hunt? Or is there an opportunity to knock them out in advance? I could see those bucks being hip to the game and changing completely after the first sound of gunfire.


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Two day hunt and you gotta shoot two does ?

I would tote around two or three muzzleloaders so you got more shots if a bunch of does come in.

Good luck!
 
You have to earn your does on the same hunt? Or is there an opportunity to knock them out in advance? I could see those bucks being hip to the game and changing completely after the first sound of gunfire.


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The does have to be taken on Nov 1 or 2 and checked in at the check station before being issued a buck tag. I can envision a memo going out to all of the bucks with the following: Be seen on the morning of Nov 1: Walk in front of blinds, stands and hunters. After shots are fired and/or you see does on the ground, please remove yourself from the park.
 
The does have to be taken on Nov 1 or 2 and checked in at the check station before being issued a buck tag. I can envision a memo going out to all of the bucks with the following: Be seen on the morning of Nov 1: Walk in front of blinds, stands and hunters. After shots are fired and/or you see does on the ground, please remove yourself from the park.
Now you know why EAB was banned by WI politicians
 
Now you know why EAB was banned by WI politicians
I am not against EAB as a management tool. It does mean I will likely have a separate plan for day one and day two. I talk to of my fellow bow hunters who tell me they prefer compound or traditional bows over crossbows and rifles because they like the challenge. If that's the case, they should love EAB.
 
I was able to talk to the park supervisor by phone. While not a wealth of information on "where" to hunt, he did give some pointers on access routes that will be available for the hunt and said I could put out a blind early--but with the understanding if anything happens it is not their responsibly." He also said I could use the e-bike on the trail system, which will help get me to where I am thinking I'll hunt should we have a north wind. 80 hunters on 1000 acres (one hunter every 12.5 acres) means high density hunting. Last year 22.5% harvested a deer, with 1 buck harvested.
Two day hunt and you gotta shoot two does ?

I would tote around two or three muzzleloaders so you got more shots if a bunch of does come in.

Good luck!
Thanks for wishing me luck. The rules allow more than one muzzleloader, so I will be taking the CVA ML 50cal pistol along with the rifle (and maybe two rifles).

The landowners around the park should be planning their hunts for the deer that are getting out of Dodge.
 
The does have to be taken on Nov 1 or 2 and checked in at the check station before being issued a buck tag.

Sounds more like a game show. Also sounds like they really don't want any bucks taken. lol

I guess one doe at first light, one in the evening, buck hunt the second day. In theory.
Reality will be more like a game show.
 
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My brother volunteers at a hunt like this in Missouri each year. He is always a guide for a hunter that drew a special hunt on a state park, for example. Within that program they need to kill two does before they can use the special buck tag. Most years the hunters don't even get to hunt for a buck. My brother got lucky when he drew for the hunt and killed a pretty solid buck. He didn't hesitate and killed two does the first morning and his buck that afternoon. That is exactly what I would do in a hunt like this. Have fun and be safe.
 
Sounds like a fun hunt. I would find the thickest escape cover and hope to kill 2 does the first morning.

I used to be in a club that required a doe to be killed before you could kill a buck. That’s a lot of pressure and saved a many a buck. I’ve found does are hard to kill when you HAVE to kill one!
 
Sounds more like a game show. Also sounds like they really don't want any bucks taken. lol

I guess one doe at first light, one in the evening, buck hunt the second day. In theory.
Reality will be more like a game show.
With about the same odds as winning big on a game show. 80 hunters, two days, 22 deer harvested, 1 buck.
 
I would be wearing body armor.
 
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I am scouting the property this weekend. It will be an adventure if nothing else.
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Your best bet, carry two rifles, the best you can. Shoot a doe and fawn at daylight, if possible. Then hope for a chance at a buck. Have people in place to take care of the doe and fawn, you will need a team, so to speak.
 
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Your best bet, carry two rifles, the best you can. Shoot a doe and fawn at daylight, if possible. Then hope for a chance at a buck. Have people in place to take care of the doe and fawn, you will need a team, so to speak.
They allow multiple rifles, so I’ll bring two. If the opportunity for a doe/fawn arises, that will be my goal. I plan to let any deer shot lie until I take a break, and will process them at the camp. Shot placement will be the shoulders to mitigate running deer.
 
Day 1, Setting Up: I enjoyed ann uneventful and smooth check in to both the management hunt and campground just after 2:00 pm. By 3:00 pm the trailer was set up and I was ready to scout. There were already 20 or more campers in the “Site with Electric” loop and more in the primitive and non-electric sites. I appeared many had checked in yesterday or before, as they all had their management hunt placards displayed.

I had scouted the park twice, once in August and again on October 14th, and had identified two potential locations. One was already busy with guys setting up stands, and the other didn’t look as promising given the forecasted NW wind (for Saturday). Using the e-bike, which the park ranger confirmed was which is allowed on trails, I found a promising location at the intersection of three trails.

With the blind set up (and crossing my fingers and saying a prayer that my blind, chair, etc… are still there in the morning), I e-biked back to camp, enjoying the sight of a doe just 100 yards from the setup.

Back at the camper I prepared chili from the last batch of last year’s venison and made mental preparations for the hunt. The forecast is 14 degrees below normal—our first hard freeze of the season. I am happy for the electric fireplace/heater in the camper.

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Day 2, The morning hunt. I arrived at the blind about a hour before sunrise. Shots started ringing out just after shooting light. At 8:30, I stood up to stretch my legs just as two deer came out. I was not able to get situated in time to get a shot, but it was great to see some deer activity and I generally like the set up.

So far I’ve heard 24 shots this morning. How many of those are from the managed hunt and
how many of those are on neighboring properties for the youth season opener I do not know. From the sound of the shots I think most of those have been from the managed hunt.

At 9:20 it’s still in the low 30s, so it feels like November. Truly a beautiful day to be outdoors and in God’s creation.

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At 9:40 another hunter walked right in front of where I am, and down the trail that I anticipated the deer coming from. About 10 minutes later a buck came out out of the woods on the trail, caught his sent, and left returned to the woods.

So far, I’ve heard 27 shots, and I will probably stay in the blind until noon. Tomorrow, the wind will hange from the north to south, so. I am working on a new set up.
 
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I called it a morning around noon and returned to the blind at 1 PM. A quick lunch was accompanied by some On-X scouting in preparation for a forecasted180° change in wind direction tonight.

The father son group in the campground next to me harvested a mature doe. Although I haven’t heard many shots since lunchtime, someone close just took a shot.

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There is a well used deer trail about 50 yards down this path. It is where the doe and her bond came out this morning.

Based on the forecast, I may move around 3 PM. It’s calm now, but that should change soon.

I made a move around 3:00. A still-hunter went through a few minutes ago. Needless to say, the managed hunt dynamics are new to me. I saw the father/son duo when I moved and they each have their antlerless tags filled and are on the hunt to fill their buck tags.
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Day Two: Epilogue
Despite being set up well for the wind, I was starting to second guess the move. Squirrel activity crescendoed as the end of shooting light approached. Over the course of the day I heard 48 shots (give or take a few) and I was bemoaning not being more cautious earlier in the day when I stood up to stretch just as two deer were entering the path.

With just two minutes of legal light left, I was using scanning the edges one last time when I saw one, then two, deer entering the shooting lane. The first deer was much smaller than the second, and I could not discern if the second was a doe or a buck. Since the managed hunt requires two antlerless deer before earning a buck tag, I placed the high quality Simmons optics that came with the TC muzzleloader (INSERT SARCASM) and watched as the deer run 40 yards and dropped.

After confirming the deer was down, I returned to my truck (about 1/2 mile away) and drove to a point that would minimize the drag out. Before retrieving the deer I collected my blind, and shooting bag, and secured them in the truck, with the lights pointed over the field. This is where things go bad.

During the initial trip to the truck was able to carry pop up blind blind and shooting bag, but not my chair. I left the deer where I had set up the blind then grabbed the chair and took about six steps before twisting my ankle on a black walnut—resulting in a maneuver that should be left to gymnasts. Once I determined nothing was broken, I limped back to the truck only to find my keys were missing. After searching for 10 minutes, I called the *55 emergency number they required us to know, and within 15 minutes a park ranger showed up. Our initial search did not find the key (which could have been anywhere between the initial drag and the second trip the to truck). With the only spare key at home, I called my wife, who was returning from our granddaughter’s hockey game. A plan was put in place that would get me the spare key, howbeit, it would be at least an hour before she should get to the park entrance.

The ranger kindly offered to search again, so we returned to the point of recovery and retraced my steps. We found the place I had fallen, and after a second pass, the ranger exclaimed, “I think I found it.” Sure enough, half buried in the mud was the key. When I called my wife to let her know she said they (her and my granddaugher) had been praying we would find it! Amen to that prayer.

With the key in hand, the ranger helped me load the deer (many thanks!), and 10 minutes later I was at the check station. This is my first management hunt. This was also the longest day of hunting in my life (12 hours). I saw four deer during legal light, and two more returning from the check-in station. The harvest was a doe, helping the park achieve their objective.

With the time change, the morning hunt will seem early, but I anticipate I’ll sleep well tonight.

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