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Late Grafting Question
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5 year old buck +
If your scion is not dormant, you are into chip budding territory. The bud already leafed out, so it won't grow again this year. You may as well wait til a bit later in the season when the new buds have formed on your scion wood.
Is it possible to get a dormant scion from someone who has something leftover?
Is it possible to get a dormant scion from someone who has something leftover?
Derek Reese 29
5 year old buck +
I grafted a couple apples onto leafed out trees last week. They seem to be waking up. Scion was dormant in my fridge from February. Probably getting to be a little late. Still want to graft onto some bradford pear seedlings I found just not sure I will get to it before it gets real awful late and I am really unsure if it will work...(doesn't really matter just wanted to get productive pears going on free already-in-the-ground rootstock...
H20fwler
5 year old buck +
I thought about that but really want to clone some of the stuff from our orchards because I planted it with my sons years ago or grandsons recently…mostly Granny Smith and Pink Pearl, they are also fantastic eaters.
What got me in this situation was procrastinating getting some cuttings, then I forgot all about it until yesterday when I saw the box of ten M111 rootstock behind the barn where I put it to stay cool two months ago. I’ve just had to many things going on this spring. So, was just going to toss the box but for some reason opened it thinking they had to be dried up dead weeks ago and they were alive! Every one of them was leafed out with crazy roots, so I healed them into the garden and I guess I’ll save them to graft to next spring?
I might plant them in their permanent spots late this fall and top work them early next spring because the garden has to be moved for the house build.
treeguy
A good 3 year old buck
I think you still have some hope. Go look at your stock trees and look for blind wood. You can often find small sections with no leaves. Just make sure there's dormant buds there. I often find some at the bases of limbs where they come off the trunk
Graft the tree a little higher, if they don't take you can always do it again next year.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
If they were my rootstocks, I'd wait until next spring to graft, using new wood from this year's growth. I've read in several places (might be a few posts from some guys on this forum a few years back) that grafting with 1-year-old wood is the best likelihood for success. Maybe it was Appleman, Crazy Ed, Professor Kent, Greyphase ..... ??
If you have to move your garden - maybe plant them in their home spots & graft 'em there next spring. Just a thought.
If you have to move your garden - maybe plant them in their home spots & graft 'em there next spring. Just a thought.
bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
I've had a few a bit awake when grafted.
Likely you'll have poor graft growth, but will take off next year. I have a winter wildlife on m111 that did that.
They fail, just graft again.
The best rootstocknis fresh off the vine.... I have bought barefoot grafted trees I wanted and cut some off for grafting that same spring. Usually fif that be cause the rootstock I wanted wasn't available.
Likely you'll have poor graft growth, but will take off next year. I have a winter wildlife on m111 that did that.
They fail, just graft again.
The best rootstocknis fresh off the vine.... I have bought barefoot grafted trees I wanted and cut some off for grafting that same spring. Usually fif that be cause the rootstock I wanted wasn't available.
It *could* work, but success rates may be low. You'd need to remove all leaves from the scions, and probably need to wrap it in Parafilm in its entirety. Would be good if there were some unsprouted 'reserve' buds near the base. A simple bark-veneer graft would be my go-to.
Beyond doing a little bit of T-budding in late summer, my one successful growing season graft with active scion was a 4-flap 'banana' graft of 'Yoder #1' shagbark hickory onto a pecan rootstock, in mid-July back around 1998.
