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Howboutthemdawgs

Howboutthemdawgs

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im not necessarily in the market but I could be sooner or later. I priced a 7’ pull behind Great Plains at a local deal. It was like $32k!!! I don’t know all these letters and numbers like 3pt6 blah blah. I’m just curious for yall that have no till drills is that what yall are getting or is their some other class of drill that doesn’t require selling children to acquire? I’m not interested in the tar rivers or saya or whatever, I’m just looking at gp’s land pride, John Deere’s maybe genesis of the world.
 
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I’ve considered it. Im more interested in a no till drill. When the time comes I’ll pay what they cost I’m just wondering if that’s the same rigs most of you guys are running
 
I'm curious why you are not bothering to look at Tar River? We rented a Great plains no till drill from the local NRCS office for the last 7 to 8 years and had really good luck with it. Like you, we tried shopping for used Great plains drills and just couldn't stomach the cost. After doing our research we ended up buying a tar river and use it for the first time this summer. I think having a pull behind is a little bit less wear and tear on your tractor compared to the three-point connection, but from a functional standpoint they are nearly identical. For around 1/5 of the cost, it is a no-brainer in my opinion.
 
I’m far from an expert but the reviews that I’ve seen seem to indicate they are lighter and less heavy duty parts. I also want to a pull behind I believe and I only want to buy one for the rest of my food plotting existence. I don’t want to buy one that won’t check the boxes and have to buy another later
 
Land pride (I believe) is made by Great Plains and cost a bit less.
They sure look identical to me.
 
Bill said:
Land pride (I believe) is made by Great Plains and cost a bit less.
They sure look identical to me.
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They were about the same price when I priced them. Exact same drill. Like a gmc and a Chevy.

I have a 3p600. It’s a great piece of machinery and I have been very happy with it.
 
You won't find a GP or LP for the price of a Tar River. I bought mine new in 2012 and can probably sell it for what I paid for it, if not more. If you can use a 15' drill, you can buy JD or GP for less than the 6'. I suspect the Genesis isn't going to be much less, but I wouldn't own a drill without a large and small seed box.
 
Does anyone know much about the Tye drills like pasture pleaser, farmers put them up for sale for reasonable used price, and they look solid. Anyone know any positive or negative about them?
 
Howboutthemdawgs said:
im not necessarily in the market but I could be sooner or later. I priced a 7’ pull behind Great Plains at a local deal. It was like $32k!!! I don’t know all these letters and numbers like 3pt6 blah blah. I’m just curious for yall that have no till drills is that what yall are getting or is their some other class of drill that doesn’t require selling children to acquire? I’m not interested in the tar rivers or saya or whatever, I’m just looking at gp’s land pride, John Deere’s maybe genesis of the world.
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How many acres do you plant?
 
Right now I would be doing a minimum of 20. If I pulled my crops out of rotation I’d add another 5-10
 
I would recommend the PH (Genesis) with wheel kit and hydraulic lift for pull behind rather than 3 point. I was at a demo for these and I believe it might check the boxes you need. New would be just north of 20K. If you are not stuck on new, consider a Haybuster 107C. I see these frequently in the 10-15K range. These are some of the most popular units with our state agencies that plant 100s of acres of plots per year. Depending on where you live, you may be able to rent a Great Plains or Haybuster from a government agency to see if you like it.
 
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Howboutthemdawgs said:
im not necessarily in the market but I could be sooner or later. I priced a 7’ pull behind Great Plains at a local deal. It was like $32k!!! I don’t know all these letters and numbers like 3pt6 blah blah. I’m just curious for yall that have no till drills is that what yall are getting or is their some other class of drill that doesn’t require selling children to acquire? I’m not interested in the tar rivers or saya or whatever, I’m just looking at gp’s land pride, John Deere’s maybe genesis of the world.
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I recommend the GP 3pt6 blah blah

I love mine

bill
 
Dawg. Just pull the trigger.

I have a Firminator too and love it for clover plots.
 
swat1018 said:
I suspect the Genesis isn't going to be much less, but I wouldn't own a drill without a large and small seed box.
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The Genesis has an optional small seed box now.

You can try to save some money buying a gently used drill.
 
I honestly don’t think I need a small seed box. Stuff like clover, I am most likely just going to broadcast that. I don’t know that the juice is worth the squeeze on drilling clovers.
 
Brassicas?
Switchgrass?

I feel like we always use a small seed box and occasionally use the large box.
 
I’m not going to purposely not get a small seed box but it’s not a deal breaker. I don’t really do brassicas and I don’t envision doing switch. But I can never say never.
I had a buddy drill clovers this past week without a small seed box so I suppose it’s doable
 
KY wild said:
Does anyone know much about the Tye drills like pasture pleaser, farmers put them up for sale for reasonable used price, and they look solid. Anyone know any positive or negative about them?
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While I've not been using them to plant wildlife plots, I have used both Great Plains (rented from the local NRCS) and Tye Pasture Pleaser (rented from the local Southern States Co-Op) to drill a mix of novel-endophyte fescue/orchardgrass when renovating our pastures. The Tye PP was a disappointment across the board... got a really crappy stand with it, compared to previous seedings with the Great Plains.
I suspect that both machines, being rentals, get beat like the rented mule that they are.
I never got decent stands of clover with the Great Plains - I think it puts the seed too deep... but that may have been an issue of me not being able to figure out how to set the depth properly for the legume coulters and seed tubes. So... I just broadcast clover seed in early fall or around Valentine's Day, rather than risk the drill burying the seed.
 
I plant brassicas, clovers, and other small seeds with the small box. I also use it to plant large and small seeds in on pass. I wouldn't own one without one, and I don't know anyone with a drill who would say any different.
 
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