Brassica Clover Blend

[WTNUT]

I have 9 new plots to plant, a week ago I was going to put them all in brassica. This week I am thinking about a blend. Does anyone have a good blend recipe for a clover brassica mix? And, before someone says it I know I should just do one half of each plot in clover and the other half in brassica. Ha, I may still do that actually but want to see what others say. Thanks.


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[Barndog56]

Depends on what you want to achieve. The only reason I would plant half clover and the other half brassicas was if I wanted to take pretty pictures. Plant them together as they will complement each other.

Red clover is my favorite as it does well during summer dry spells, and has huge root systems.

 

[Kooch]

Mix in an annual clover if you want the clover to do anything this year. I mix in Frosty Berseem and Crimson. They don't make it through our Winters.

 

[scott44]

I usually plant my brassicas into my last years LC's cereal grain mix that has clover in it some times I haven't spayed and the clover has come on pretty thick with the brassicas, the turnips in the mix didn't get as big as without the clover so I didn't get the bulb production for winter. The clover and brassicas was a good draw for the fall early winter though and it looks good.

 

[WTNUT]

Scott I see some cereal grain in your pics. Looks great. Is that Lick Creek’s mix. If someone has the mix will they attach to this thread?


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[scott44]

Scott I see some cereal grain in your pics. Looks great. Is that Lick Creek’s mix. If someone has the mix will they attach to this thread?


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There might be some rye in that pic but I think most of it is grass. Here's Paul's rotation.

Plant ALL in one plot in strips or blocks

Alice, Kopu II, Durana (or comparable) white clover 10% of plot, sow at 6#'s per acre with the rye combination in the fall or in the spring with oats and berseem clover. Correct Ph and P&K with soil tests

Brassicas in 45% of plot

Purple Top Turnips 3#
Dwarf Essex Rape 2#
GroundHog Forage radish 5#

Plant in mid to late July in most Midwest states, or 60-90 days before your first killing frost, Use 200#'s of 46-0-0 urea and 400#'s of 6-28-28 per acre. Follow the dead brassicas with oats and berseem or crimson clover in mid spring at 60#'s oats and 12-15#'s berseem clover and/or crimson and/or 50#'s of chickling vetch)

Cereal Grain combo in 45% of plot...we use 50# each rye, oats and peas along with radish and clover seed all planted in half of each feeding area

Winter rye 50-80#'s per acre (56#'s = a bushel)
Spring oats 50-120#'s per acre (32#'s = a bushel)
Frostmaster Winter Peas or 4010/6040 Forage peas 20-80#'s per acre

Red Clover 8-12#'s per acre or white clover at 6#'s per acre (or 20-40 pounds hairy vetch and 20-30#'s crimson clover on sandy soils)
Groundhog Forage Radish 5#'s per acre

Plant in late August to early September, if following well fertilized brassicas use 100 - 200#'s of urea, if starting a new plot add 400#'s of 6-28-28 but for best results soil test and add only what is necessary.

Rotate the brassicas and rye combo each year

 

[WTNUT]

Scott I see some cereal grain in your pics. Looks great. Is that Lick Creek’s mix. If someone has the mix will they attach to this thread?


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There might be some rye in that pic but I think most of it is grass. Here's Paul's rotation.

Plant ALL in one plot in strips or blocks

Alice, Kopu II, Durana (or comparable) white clover 10% of plot, sow at 6#'s per acre with the rye combination in the fall or in the spring with oats and berseem clover. Correct Ph and P&K with soil tests

Brassicas in 45% of plot

Purple Top Turnips 3#
Dwarf Essex Rape 2#
GroundHog Forage radish 5#

Plant in mid to late July in most Midwest states, or 60-90 days before your first killing frost, Use 200#'s of 46-0-0 urea and 400#'s of 6-28-28 per acre. Follow the dead brassicas with oats and berseem or crimson clover in mid spring at 60#'s oats and 12-15#'s berseem clover and/or crimson and/or 50#'s of chickling vetch)

Cereal Grain combo in 45% of plot...we use 50# each rye, oats and peas along with radish and clover seed all planted in half of each feeding area

Winter rye 50-80#'s per acre (56#'s = a bushel)
Spring oats 50-120#'s per acre (32#'s = a bushel)
Frostmaster Winter Peas or 4010/6040 Forage peas 20-80#'s per acre

Red Clover 8-12#'s per acre or white clover at 6#'s per acre (or 20-40 pounds hairy vetch and 20-30#'s crimson clover on sandy soils)
Groundhog Forage Radish 5#'s per acre

Plant in late August to early September, if following well fertilized brassicas use 100 - 200#'s of urea, if starting a new plot add 400#'s of 6-28-28 but for best results soil test and add only what is necessary.

Rotate the brassicas and rye combo each year

Okay I am a little slow here so he would plant three strips in each plot? Clover, grains and Brasscias?


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[scott44]

Okay I am a little slow here so he would plant three strips in each plot? Clover, grains and Brasscias?


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Yes, then rotate the brassicas and cereal grains every year and rotate the clover out when it gets thin is what I do.

 

[WTNUT]

Scott, my hat is off to you. The clover brassica in earlier pic looks great! Do you know your seed rates for each? And, the Lick Creek strip look great as well. Did you seed by hand seeder or ATV seeder or other?


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[scott44]

Scott, my hat is off to you. The clover brassica in earlier pic looks great! Do you know your seed rates for each? And, the Lick Creek strip look great as well. Did you seed by hand seeder or ATV seeder or other?


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My seeding rates are pretty close to what Paul's rates are, as for the seeder I use a Solo seeder and for clover and smaller seed I use an old Scott's small green hand held seeder.

 

[SD51555]

Any time I'm putting down seed, I'm putting grass down with it. That stuff is coming whether you want it to or not. In the spring that's barley or short season oats. In the fall that's wheat and forage oats. If It's new and tough soil, I'd mix some rye in too. Also spread a little chicory in every fall plot. If it's mid summer like next weekend, sorghum and japanese millet.