Boundary Line Warriors

[PatinPA]

My neighbor (and relative) to the south doesn’t hunt but he lets a guy hunt. This guy basically drives around in an ATV waiting for a deer to run across the field

The other day I saw he had put a corn pile about 20 yards from the line on the neighbor. I understand that, but what I don’t understand is why he came over to the fence and set a big ceramic bowl across the fence about a foot on my property. I don’t know what that could possibly be for. Pic shown below. Whatever it is for it doesn’t seem to be working for him.

Any ideas what he was trying to do?

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Yardage Marker?

 

[BenA]

Doesn't get more boundary line sitting than this.

 

[buckdeer1]

I know a guy that had an outfitter that put a stand 10 yards off his line facing his property.Opening day a brush pile got burned on his property right in front of that blind,they decided to move stands after that

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I thought about hanging a ladder stand facing him and hanging wind chimes off of it

 

[cavey]

Just wait until a few years from now when higher-end thermal drones become more prevalent. A neighbor can literally count the points on every buck on your property and track every move you and the deer make. Even though harassing wildlife is illegal, they could do that and ruin your hunting without you even knowing it. There is no way you would ever be able to prove anything. They can even do it at night when you can't see anything. What I've been told is that it's not illegal to fly over other people's land. No one talks about this much, but it is eventually going to be a big factor in deer hunting and other matters of privacy.

PS - I recently found out that a neighbor brough in one of these high-end drones to look for a deer that had been shot. I talked to someone who basically admitted that they flew over other people's land and that they could go over 2 miles in some places where the communications wasn't blocked by trees.

I was even thinking tech to a higher level, one day we will walk in to our treestands in the wee dark am hours with a pair of low profile night vision glasses/IR glasses that sees every heat/deer signature and out a head of us will be our drone scouting the way into the stand. That and my completely silenced firearm are going to pose some huge ethical hunting challenges for me in the future.

 

[Native Hunter]

I was even thinking tech to a higher level, one day we will walk in to our treestands in the wee dark am hours with a pair of low profile night vision glasses/IR glasses that sees every heat/deer signature and out a head of us will be our drone scouting the way into the stand. That and my completely silenced firearm are going to pose some huge ethical hunting challenges for me in the future.

Let's just pull out all of the stops and have drones with heat seeking laser guns that we operate from home while still in bed drinking coffee. I know several people who would be on the bandwagon immediately.

 

[cavey]

I thought about hanging a ladder stand facing him and hanging wind chimes off of it

wind chimes - brutal -- that would be the nuclear weapon of all things possible , ,,,,, the one thing in life I hate more that chocolate mint ice cream

That even better than a neighbor that hooked up a train airhorn to his air compressor and sounded it off exactly at the start of the opener just so his neighbor out back would know when it was legal to shoot. Im a half mile away and it was loud

 

[hillrunner]

I was even thinking tech to a higher level, one day we will walk in to our treestands in the wee dark am hours with a pair of low profile night vision glasses/IR glasses that sees every heat/deer signature and out a head of us will be our drone scouting the way into the stand. That and my completely silenced firearm are going to pose some huge ethical hunting challenges for me in the future.

There're plenty of people using hand held thermal monoculars to get in and out clean. It's a step too far for me but it is what it is.
The more we use technology to circumvent every advantage a deer has, the less impressive those kills become.
For example, I have no idea if the ozone machines really work or not, but if we take away a deers sense of smell, what's even the point anymore. It's the challenge that makes the reward. If the kill is all that matters, I'd save a ton of cash by just buying a canned hunt every year.
There are tons of examples of us using ridiculous levels of technology to overcome the defenses of this simple animal that hasn't changed since man was trying to poke it with a stick. I wish people could just accept the challenge as part of the reward but that's not the way of progress. We all gravitate to the easy button.
(This rant isn't pointed at you cavey, you just got me thinking)

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

There're plenty of people using hand held thermal monoculars to get in and out clean. It's a step too far for me but it is what it is.
The more we use technology to circumvent every advantage a deer has, the less impressive those kills become.
For example, I have no idea if the ozone machines really work or not, but if we take away a deers sense of smell, what's even the point anymore. It's the challenge that makes the reward. If the kill is all that matters, I'd save a ton of cash by just buying a canned hunt every year.
There are tons of examples of us using ridiculous levels of technology to overcome the defenses of this simple animal that hasn't changed since man was trying to poke it with a stick. I wish people could just accept the challenge as part of the reward but that's not the way of progress. We all gravitate to the easy button.
(This rant isn't pointed at you cavey, you just got me thinking)

Amen.
Thermals to get in and out, hadn’t heard that…what a joke

Also total agree about the ozonics deal. Woodsmanship is dead. Insulated scent proof blind, electronic gizmo that can change scent molecules, laser range finder scope on a custom 1000 yard rifle, , thermal optics to ensure clean access, 200lbs of corn, 8 cell cams sitting on the pile…tremendous skill.

 

[b116757]

There're plenty of people using hand held thermal monoculars to get in and out clean. It's a step too far for me but it is what it is.
The more we use technology to circumvent every advantage a deer has, the less impressive those kills become.
For example, I have no idea if the ozone machines really work or not, but if we take away a deers sense of smell, what's even the point anymore. It's the challenge that makes the reward. If the kill is all that matters, I'd save a ton of cash by just buying a canned hunt every year.
There are tons of examples of us using ridiculous levels of technology to overcome the defenses of this simple animal that hasn't changed since man was trying to poke it with a stick. I wish people could just accept the challenge as part of the reward but that's not the way of progress. We all gravitate to the easy button.
(This rant isn't pointed at you cavey, you just got me thinking)

I completely understand your sentiment but compared to a long bow a center fire rifle is like walking on the moon in comparison technology will continue to advance and people will utilize the advantages you simply have to decide what level of technology your ok with and roll with it.

 

[hillrunner]

I completely understand your sentiment but compared to a long bow a center fire rifle is like walking on the moon in comparison technology will continue to advance and people will utilize the advantages you simply have to decide what level of technology your ok with and roll with it.

You're not wrong. I just like to think that at some point we could all agree it's time to draw a line in the sand and say no more.
We're hunting a shared resource, so it's not like what we do doesn't affect others.

 

[Belo]

Looking for clarity here. Are you looking to define your property and let it be known without posting signs, or just let them know you hunt and they're getting a little closer than you'd like considering the amount of land they have?

If it's the former, I hate posted signs too, but they're a necessary evil. If it's the later you don't have a ton of options. Maybe plant some trees on the edge or even fake tree cages and stuff to show it's active "over there". Only issue with planting any food on the edge is that it's just going to attract deer and therefore hunters lol. Maybe build a small shed/fort thing? Not sure if you have kids, but you can make it look like there are kids hanging out back there and heck maybe even your kids would like to hang out in the fort.

 

[SwampCat]

I own 62 acres that borders a federal hwy. There is a ag field on the backside. We have our food plots along the back side away from the highway, but not on the line - maybe forty or fifty yards in. We can not see onto the neighbor. The ag sold and a company bought it and planted trees. Some guys leased it and the property owner said you can bush hog a strip 15 ft wide around it. Where do you think all the stands end up? I have hunted and they have hunted at same time - we are in stands 40 yards apart. Me in a long established stand and them in one that has been there two months. The deer hunting is already headed down hill. Not because an outfitter leased it - but because of the mindset and number of the new hunters

It doesnt matter if it is an outfitter or locals. The locals can be just as bad as the outfitter. I have a neighbor who owns 40 acres and they have killed six bucks off it this year - and still hunting. So far, that is a buck per 7 acres. I doubt any outfitter is doing any worse than that

 

[ksJoe]

Some old videos popped up in my youtube feed that reminnded me of this thread. However you feel about boundary line warriors, just don't act like the jerk in these videos.

first video
wrapup

Basically, some young guys (and their grandpa) drove 7 hours and got permission to duck hunt. They set up right on the property line. The landowner they got permission from told them to stay away from the property line, but they didn't. The neighbor shows up, goes straight into screaming obscenities, calls the warden, etc. He offered to let them hunt if they paid him. The neighbor looks like the kind of guy no decent person would want to be associated with.

The neighbor landowner who was harrasing the guys hunting the propery line was charged with 3 misdemeanors:


A commenter on one of the videos claims the neighbor plead guilty to 2 of the 3 charges, paid a fine, and lost hunting priveledges for 1 year.

It sounds like one of the hunters was charged with tresspassing and plead guilty ($250) rather than fight it.

 

[chucker66]

I have seen that before. Guys get crazy when it comes to ducks and geese I can tell you this, the last thing I'm going to do it to approach a bunch of young hunters all with shotguns and start acting like an asshat.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I have seen that before. Guys get crazy when it comes to ducks and geese I can tell you this, the last thing I'm going to do it to approach a bunch of young hunters all with shotguns and start acting like an asshat.

Yeah it was infuriating to watch but obviously he crossed many lines. If he would have just set up 5’ from them on his side and never said a word I would have been on his side. But the way he acted…he deserved worse