^^^^ Natty's comment - Now that you mention it, Natty, we did have a new (to me) caterpillar show up at camp. I only saw it on 2 trees and I gave them a good soaking in Sevin. The limbs did look like what those in John's pix do. They ate the crap out of a few limbs on each tree, but thankfully they didn't get farther. The leaves looked much like what John's do. I don't know if it's the same pest, but the look is very similar. Any FB I've seen turns things black.