WR/WW

[r49740]

Picked up 560 lbs today. $16.25 for 56# bags. Will be thrown down mid September depending on rain.

 

[jsasker007]

Rye will grow on concrete. Fling it on the plot and walk away.

 

[r49740]

Thats the idea... just looking for soil benefits and hopefully some help with weed suppression for next year. Will broadcast, then mow over top and call it good.

 

[Kdog]

Picked up 560 lbs today. $16.25 for 56# bags. Will be thrown down mid September depending on rain.

I need to find some reasonably priced WR down here in GA! You paid less for 560# than it will cost me to get 200#.

 

[r49740]

Weather looks like it'll give rain saturday night and sunday. Think I'll be throwing the WR in.

 

[Auger]

Paid $8 per bushel wr here in wi. Amazed at the cost difference through the country

 

[Tree Spud]

Picked up and spread 1100 lbs of WR last weekend at $11.50/bushel. All in bags, if I had a way to pick-up without bagging would've been less.

 

[DiSc0Rd]

22 bucks for 50# here in central il

 

[Kdog]

I found some for $21 per 50# bag about an hour north. Already paid for it and will be picking it up this weekend. Much cheaper than last year but still too high.

 

[FarmerDan]

I need to find some reasonably priced WR down here in GA! You paid less for 560# than it will cost me to get 200#.

Some of this will be true, some of it will not....and I can't tell the difference. Supply and demand. Typically, (remember this is 2020 and there's nothing typical about it!!), the price of a bag of small grain seed, -- for this discussion, RYE-- cleaned and certified complete with a seed tag stating all the seed labeling requirements runs 2x - 3x the farm price of rye (in the bin).

Typically, if your food plot is in NE, SD, MN, MI you'll usually pay less than anyone.

If your food plot is in NY, IN, IL, KY, TX, MO, OK, OH and any East Coast State you typically (I have to use that word a lot) will pay more, sometimes WAY more, than the national average.

Growers, suppliers, and retailers love the states in the Chesapeake Bay watershed. In MD, PA, DE, VA you'll pay 20% - 30% more than the national average seed price. Some years when there's a short crop that number goes to 100% over the national average.

WV, NJ, TN, NC, SC all suffer the same effects of a distant supply and high local demand.

And then there's Georgia where Rye = Gold!

 

[Kdog]

Some of this will be true, some of it will not....and I can't tell the difference. Supply and demand. Typically, (remember this is 2020 and there's nothing typical about it!!), the price of a bag of small grain seed, -- for this discussion, RYE-- cleaned and certified complete with a seed tag stating all the seed labeling requirements runs 2x - 3x the farm price of rye (in the bin).

Typically, if your food plot is in NE, SD, MN, MI you'll usually pay less than anyone.

If your food plot is in NY, IN, IL, KY, TX, MO, OK, OH and any East Coast State you typically (I have to use that word a lot) will pay more, sometimes WAY more, than the national average.

Growers, suppliers, and retailers love the states in the Chesapeake Bay watershed. In MD, PA, DE, VA you'll pay 20% - 30% more than the national average seed price. Some years when there's a short crop that number goes to 100% over the national average.

WV, NJ, TN, NC, SC all suffer the same effects of a distant supply and high local demand.

And then there's Georgia where Rye = Gold!

The same place that was $49 for 50# last year is where I will be picking up 400# at $21 50# tomorrow.

 

[FarmerDan]

Production in the United States is up 13% over last year.

 

[FarmerDan]

So, what I want to know my Georgia friends, is what drives up the price there? I assume it’s not supply because there’s more rye for grain produced in GA than anywhere else in the USA. I’m assume some of that grain is for seed. Are farmers paid incentives to plant it as a cover? Here in VA, from time-to-time the local Soil & Water Conservation Districts will pay a potion of seed cost and that drives up the local price.

 

[Kdog]

Not sure, but for me it is most likely the area. Not much ag around us so the seed stores are more geared towards home gardening, small farms and deer hunters. In GA the deer hunters mean $$, so they bump it up. If I were to drive two hours south, I could probably get it much cheaper, but it's not worth that much time. I had a need to go up to my property in Commerce anyway, so it was worth the 1 hour drive north to save over $100 on seed.

 

[bueller]

Paid $18.50 per 56# bag of Guardian Fall Rye. Supposed to be "premium cover crop seed". Bought it because it was available, no other reason.

 

[r49740]

9 days in. I think it’s looking good. My seed guy called and gave me 5 56# bags for free. 0 rain forecasted for what looks like about 2 weeks. Hoping the dewey and mild frost mornings will provide enough moisture for the seeds to start. Going to overseed a bit, another area with it, and then seed some old logging trails.

 

[r49740]

Here's a progress pic from the other day. I think its coming in nice considering only 1 day of very little rain on it so far. First time I've put any of this in. When do deer typically start to come in to feed on this? January/February on, or is it sooner as it is still shorter and younger?

 

[r49740]

Actually the pic won't post. Says 100% but doesnt ever attach. I'll need to figure that out.

 

[bueller]

Here's a progress pic from the other day. I think its coming in nice considering only 1 day of very little rain on it so far. First time I've put any of this in. When do deer typically start to come in to feed on this? January/February on, or is it sooner as it is still shorter and younger?

I planted mine 2 weeks ago. It's now about 3" high and the deer are hammering it already. They will be on it until it gets snow covered. Then in the spring they will hit it for a few weeks from snowmelt until green up.

 

[bigbendmarine]

In my area, you can successfully throw n mow in the fall without spraying because the weed base anyway. Wait as late as you can so a hard rain doesnt stimulate a flush of wed growth. Where I live in SW Arkansas, I like to wait until early October.

SwampCat, here in North Florida I've typically been waiting until early to even mid-October to plant my WR/WW. I haven't historically sprayed, but have tilled, planted larger seeds 1 to 2" deep, drug a chain fence over to cover seeds, then cast smaller seed such as clover and rape, then dragged one more time.

Would like to get away from tilling, but don't have a no-till drill.

MUCH appreciate hearing your steps for throw-and-mow in SW Arkansas -- questions I can think of are:

1) Does the order follow the name "throw and mow" so that you're casting seed then simply mowing over it?
2) How tall is the vegetation you are cutting to cover the seed? Ask as my weed base gets quite tall, so wondering if in future should time a mow in the summer aiming for a specific grass / weed height (if there is an ideal height).
3) If you're planting a mix of seed types (such as cowpeas, WR/WW, and clover seeds) do you find they all can grow with a single "throw and mow" effort?

VERY curious for any insight you can offer -- may well look at a drill some point down the line, but not likely to do so in the next month.