Tartar ATV/UTV Disc

Prelude8626

5 year old buck +
I’m looking at a Tartar ATV Disc and can’t decide between the disc or the one with the Caltipacker. I’m curious if anyone has used one or had any input. Just can’t swing a tractor at this time but already have a 850 atv and utv.
 
I had one with the cultipacker several years ago...the extra weight will help cut, bust dirt clods, and improve seed to soil contact. It was a good implement for the job intended.

Take good care of it and if you get a tractor, should be able to sell it for what you paid. Considering freight and tax I actually made a few bucks when I sold it after 3-4 years of use.
 
Get the cultipacker for the weight. I have one which isn’t made anymore Loyal Roth and it’s a tank and does as good a job as a tractor. Key is the weight.
 
I have a disc and cultipacker that are not tarter. My disc bounces around a lot and shakes itself to pieces. I’d Think the cultipacker disc combo would be great. I love my cultipacker. The benefits of a firm seedbed with good seed to soil contact can’t be underestimated in my opinion. I seem to get good germination and it sure makes for a nice looking job. One thing I never hear mentioned is the added bonus of smoother ground for mowing later on. If your budget allows I’d sure consider the combo.
 
One more thing I recalled from having this piece of equipment. Depending on your soil type it'll need all 850 of those cc's with your ATV and good tires is a must with it set on the greatest angle and all the way down. ATV traction is key.
 
Or consider Throw and Mow as a better alternative. I have a tractor, disc, and cultipacker. The disc and cultipacker are no longer used. You can still get a great foodplot without disturbing the soil and your soil will be healthier as a result. BDCF8D2C-6D85-4868-97D1-399019B355FC.jpegCFCF1401-8A3F-4997-9E2B-20CAB712E6DD.jpeg094924CA-B4C8-466D-810E-CA1DC99CB412.jpeg
 
Concur...I'd get the cultipacker and forget the disc.
 
Rit and Yoderjac, can you walk me through the Throw and Grow process step by step. I'm assuming you spray with Gly first. After you get a good kill what do you do with all the dead weeds, clover, etc? Do you burn it? Doesn't the dead matter prevent you from getting good seed to soil contact? I'm guessing the cultipacker accomplishes that task. Thanks
 
Rit and Yoderjac, can you walk me through the Throw and Grow process step by step. I'm assuming you spray with Gly first. After you get a good kill what do you do with all the dead weeds, clover, etc? Do you burn it? Doesn't the dead matter prevent you from getting good seed to soil contact? I'm guessing the cultipacker accomplishes that task. Thanks
I broadcast my seed into whatever I'm going to mow/roll and come back and mow/roll and spray all at the same time. You want a good amount of thatch on the seed plus I believe that driving over it again helps with the seed to soil contact. I'm also sure that some seed is caught up and never gets to the ground but still germinates because of all the thatch on top of it. Others will spray and kill whatever they are planting into and come back later and plant with a planter or broadcast into the dead thatch then mow/roll it. Here is a thread that is on here with multiple pages of what eveyone does.
http://habitat-talk.com/index.php?threads/the-throw-n’-mow-method.5510/
 
Rit and Yoderjac, can you walk me through the Throw and Grow process step by step. I'm assuming you spray with Gly first. After you get a good kill what do you do with all the dead weeds, clover, etc? Do you burn it? Doesn't the dead matter prevent you from getting good seed to soil contact? I'm guessing the cultipacker accomplishes that task. Thanks

There are a lot of variations. Crimson N Camo's tread is a great starting point. He takes the principles of Ray the Soil guy and applies them to the food plotter with small equipment.
 
You might give TnM a try. It's amazingly easy and cheap. Plots like Rit's are fairly easy to get with a little forethought and some rain. The only piece of equipment that I would say is "needed" is a sprayer. I've had good luck mowing after broadcasting... but have also had good luck without mowing.
 
Rit and Yoderjac, can you walk me through the Throw and Grow process step by step. I'm assuming you spray with Gly first. After you get a good kill what do you do with all the dead weeds, clover, etc? Do you burn it? Doesn't the dead matter prevent you from getting good seed to soil contact? I'm guessing the cultipacker accomplishes that task. Thanks
There's about a 40 hour week's worth of reading on a thread on this site that i'm someone will attach here.

There's also various variations of T&M, but I used it this year as a novice and had extremely good success. Granted we had ideal conditions, but I have a plot and my buddy next to my property tilled his, and after 3 weeks of growth, we were exctly the same, minus a couple grand for a tiller.

As for the cultipacker. there's nothing wrong with killing everything, broadcasting then brushhogging it down. If you wanna be extra and seal the deal, we ran a cultipacker over the downed thatch. It just gave us that much better soil contact.

I had a very good experience with it this fall.
 
Thanks Fellas all of this helped and makes a ton of sense. I'm cringing when I think about how I planted my plots before. I've always strived for that clean tilled dirt bed before planting. No surprise I have weed issues especially where my soil was poor and the timing of the rains were bad. Nothing like dreaming of playing in the dirt this summer to get me through -13 temps. And that's the high for today in Central WI.
 
Various pics of TnM (ignore the deer, I usually don't save pics that don't have deer in them). I grow lots of different things with this method, I like diversity! Some of the things I grow have big seeds... doesn't seem to matter much.

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Rit and Yoderjac, can you walk me through the Throw and Grow process step by step. I'm assuming you spray with Gly first. After you get a good kill what do you do with all the dead weeds, clover, etc? Do you burn it? Doesn't the dead matter prevent you from getting good seed to soil contact? I'm guessing the cultipacker accomplishes that task. Thanks

And now that you are thinking about T&M and soil health, it is time for the next step in contemplation. What is a weed? A weed is a plant (any plant) growing where you don't want it. The plants that are weed to farmers may turn out to be great native foods for deer. Deer don't need or even prefer clean plots. So, start thinking about "Weed Tolerance", which weeds and under what conditions are they causing a problem with you achieving your goals, when are they contributing to your goals, and when are they neutral?

Good Luck in your adventure!

Jack
 
Great Info all!
 
I have had the Tartar
disc for over 10 years. Left outside, uncovered, poorly maintained, left unused for several years. Started back using it a year or so ago. It's a beast, but get the cultipacker for weight. You're gonna want to pack anyway. I have an old plow strapped to the top of mine for the weight. I pull with a Polaris Sportsman 800 and you need all of that if cutting deep or if it's wet. Got a cultipacker separately and wish I could match the 2 together
 
I have one for about 3 years now and it works great
 
We have one. It works great but you're going to need some power to pull it. They say minimum 500cc atv but my father in law's older sportsman 500 was working very hard. Hopefully my pioneer 700 has a little easier time with it. I'm trying to get my father in law out of the old school "fluffy seedbed" train of thought and at some point hope to only be using the cultipacker but it does help break our nasty clay the first time through and get lime in the acidic soil or make a good fire break when burning brush piles. Ours sits outside and after a year shows no signs of it.
 
I have the Tarter disc that I hook up to my 570 Polaris sisde by side and does a great job. It is a lot easier to use than the tractor disc that I had and sold
 
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