Swamp white oak

BuckSutherland

5 year old buck +
I have 15 of these tree on order from Itasca Greenhouse. What kind of soil conditions will they tolerate in MN? We have some low ground that is soggy, but it doesnt really have standing water. That ground has had trouble regenerating since it was logged in 2011. Mostly just brush and junk growing in it now. I kinda want to plant these swamp white oak on the outer edges of if.


Will they survive in ground that is wet the majority of the time?
 
Ive got some in similar ground. They do okay. The pin oaks seem to do about the same.
 
On my farm they like loamy heavy soils in bottomground that has a tendency to stay damp. They'll tolerate periodic flooding and don't mind wet feet for more than a few weeks at a time. Just about all my creek drains (near the channel or in the bottom) and any bottomground stands of timber have a bunch of swamp white oak. Best I can tell, they like it soggier as opposed to drier.
 
About 17 years ago I planted two here in western Mass. where they are not found....in heavy clay soils that remain damp. One is in really "mucky" soil and grows decently. The other is in less wet soil along the bank of a small creek and that thing thrives! It is, without question, my favorite tree I have ever planted.
 
Try swamp white oak in good loam type soil, too wet will probably not work in your area. If you see bur oaks nearby, that would be a good spot.
 
Keep them out of peat ground and they will do just fine
 
I would like to add some to my land next year. Is it best to cage them?
 
We cage all of our swamp white oaks and we also keep the base of the trunk protected from voles while they’re young. I’m not sure how susceptible they are to girdling but we don’t take that chance. Our deer will eat the trees up while they’re young with they are not protected.

My favorite tree on our farm is a SWO that I planted about 15 years ago that had 100+ acorns last year for the first time. I wish I would have planted a lot more SWO’s back then!
 
We cage all of our swamp white oaks and we also keep the base of the trunk protected from voles while they’re young. I’m not sure how susceptible they are to girdling but we don’t take that chance. Our deer will eat the trees up while they’re young with they are not protected.

My favorite tree on our farm is a SWO that I planted about 15 years ago that had 100+ acorns last year for the first time. I wish I would have planted a lot more SWO’s back then!


I caged all 15 of mine. I also put down some paper to try and suppress weeds. I am thinking of mulching them and slipping a tube over them, but they have to show some improvement first. Mine look like complete shit. I am not sure if they froze or what happen. One of them was black. Sure hope they snap out of it. All the rest of the trees I planted those two days look amazing (all fir and spruce), but the SWO looked bad. I put them all in great locations. These are about the best 2 that I have out of 15 trees. IMG_4758.JPGIMG_4759.JPGIMG_4760.JPG
 
I recommend hospice.......

bill
 
Swamp Bur Oak hybrid is another good option. The best tree I’ve planted ever.
 
Our naturally occurring swamp white oaks are mostly on ridge tops with well drained soils.


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Is this a swamp white oak? Its growing right on the lake shore of my home lake. Leaves look different from some of the other big oaks that have more rounded leaves. I am still not good at tree ID, but I am really starting to get into this stuff.

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Is this a swamp white oak? Its growing right on the lake shore of my home lake. Leaves look different from some of the other big oaks that have more rounded leaves. I am still not good at tree ID, but I am really starting to get into this stuff.

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Yes


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Bur Oak …. with some bad vines :emoji_relaxed:
 
My SWO looked like complete shit a month ago. Went up the past few days and they looked pretty damn good. A few of them arent the best, but most of them really pulled out of it. The shittiest looking tree lost all of its leaves and was just a stick last month. This month it now has 9 new leaves pushed out and looks like the best one of all them.

As soon as I saw them I ran to town and got a bag of mulch for each one. Amazing what a difference a few weeks can make. I think they will make it through the summer just fine.

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Purchased some SWO bare root 21-30" seedlings from the Iowa DNR for this spring's planting. Can people weigh in on the quality of seedlings from the Iowa DNR? I am planting in central NY and will be tubing and babying these trees.
 
I’ve heard good things about Iowa DNR trees.
 
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Started this from seed last winter, this was planted in December and got the VIT treatment. I have high hopes


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